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Personal Narrative: Putting Yourself on the Page 10/13/06



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Hello all.

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Welcome to our Friday After Hours Forum.

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I hope you've all had a good week. And the new issue of the new and improved weekly newsletter is out.

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I have a nice new paying market in it, courtesy of speck, thank you very much.

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This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum , your web editor and we're talking about personal narrative. I've published seven novels (number eight will be out in November) , more than 60 short stories, and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

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I wanted to talk about personal narrative tonight, because it's a form that works for a lot of writers, even if you essentially prefer fiction.

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It falls into the nonfiction market, so you have more options than you do with fiction.

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Essentially, personal narrative or creative nonfiction as it is also called

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is simply a true story told with fictional technique.

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It often blurs into humor...Patrick McManus's hunting stories are an example of that.

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It doesn't have to be a story that happened to you. It can be a story about someone you met or know.

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Generally, it is told in narrative form. You, the author ARE telling a story.

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So the key to writing saleable personal narrative is understanding the strengths of narrative and how to use them.

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The difference between selling personal narrative and non-selling personal narrative is the difference

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between a home movie of your son's birthday party and a well made documentary about kids.

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This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum , your web editor and we're talking about personal narrative. I've published seven novels (number eight will be out in November) , more than 60 short stories, and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

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What I mean by that, is that good personal narrative includes some kind of universal...a point that the author makes, even if it subtle.

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So a diversity of readers come away with a sense that what happened to you, or the person you're talking about, relates to them.

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I recommend, for further reading, 'Creative Nonfiction' by Philip Gerard

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published by Story Press

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ISBN 1-884910-43-2

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His enthusiasm alone should get you writing personal narrative! And he does a very nice job

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of covering all the aspects of the craft.

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It's useful even if you simply plan on writing nonfiction pieces, not necessarily personal narratives.

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He has a nice section on Art of the Interview, and another on Law and Ethics.

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One question that always comes up from the students I point toward personal narrative is 'where do I sell it?'

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While you don't find a lot of magazines that feature ONLY personal narratives (I actually can't think of any, offhand)

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what you have to realize is any magazine that is related at all to your narrative's topic is a potential market.

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Bailey White, who is now a very well respected (and best selling) author of personal narrative published

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her early narratives about her wacky family and their gardening in gardening magazines.

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As she gained name recognition and fame, she ended up in the big glossies like Atlantic.

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So if you write a charmping narrative about your kid's first days at school, try the parenting magazines with it.

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If it's a harrowing and hilarious tale about your first camp out with your cubscout troup, it might go with parent magazines, or outdoor magazines, or even hunting magazines...

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depending on what it was about and the tone.

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Editors are usually very happy to read personal narratives and generally, as with fiction, you can send in the entire piece rather than a query.

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Like fiction, it's not the topic that matters, it's how the author writes that matters.

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So it saves you from dealing with query letters.

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This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum , your web editor and we're talking about personal narrative. I've published seven novels (number eight will be out in November) , more than 60 short stories, and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

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But the most important thing to remember is that 'real' is not enough.

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Just because it really happened doesn't mean you're going to engage readers with it.

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Just as with fiction, you need to hook the reader and use all the fictional arts of strong 'show, don't tell', good dialogue, and a brisk pace, as well

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as dramatic arc to make the story irresistable.

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If it plods along, if you tell us about events we just can't visualize, the editor will say no thanks.

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And if you read the successful personal narrative writers you'll realize that whether they write in a light tone or more seriously, their voice stands out.

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It is strong, unique, it sounds like a person. They reveal their own character as they describe events that happen.

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Even if they're telling a story that happened to another person, they are still clearly a character, not just a droning voiceover.

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The biggest weakness I see in students first trying personal narrative is a bland and featureless narrative voice.

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I have several favorite narrative writers and I can recognize their voices if I happen to hear someone reading from their work, without having to look at the cover to see who wrote it.

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That is how distinct your voice needs to be.

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You've all had the experience, I'm sure, of listening to a professional or just really good storytelling, telling a story.

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And I'm sure you've all had the experience of listing to someone drone on and on at some function where you couldn't gracefully escape.

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You want to be the storyteller, not the drone. :-)

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If you're telling stories about things that have happened to you, that voice needs to be especially strong.

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If you're doing something that is more biographical...writing about another person...it won't need to be as personally characterized, but it still needs to be a strong and unique voice.

charie'

What if your story has graphic details (i.e. car accident/injury)? Do you tone them down depending on where you submit them?

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Absolutely, Charie.

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Always think of your readership.

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If you're writing for a children's magazine, for example, you're going to describe that car accident or injury differently than if

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you're, say, writing for a hunting magazine.

charie'

How do you keep up the drama without the "tragic" details?

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Oh, gosh, you can create stronger suspense with just a glimpse or a hint than if you describe the blood and gore in detail Charie.

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You might look at the scene and look away and give the reader your reaction...your lunch tries to climb into your throat...something like that.

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Believe me, it's like the monster under the bed...what we cannot see is MUCH scarier than what we can see!

charie'

Sort of like Hitchcock implying the horror off screen?

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Exactly.

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And actually, in general, the horrific scene you do NOT describe will have more power than the one where you detail every last bit of gore.

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Readers desensitize VERY quickly, and they can generally imagine something worse than you'll describe.

charie'

I guess the reader fills in their own "version" of the accident from their personal experience.

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Mostly they fill in that blank with the thing they think is the 'worst case'.

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HP Lovecraft, who writes some of the scariest stuff out there in terms of sheer look over your shoulder and shiver creepiness never describes his monsters.

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To this day I can't read him in a spooky setting without giving myself a case of the willies.

charie'

Then the important part of your narrative would be the build up or results of the accident.

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Here, it is your reaction, charie. That is what cues the reader as to how awful this is...YOU create the dramatic impact with what you say.

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This ties into featherpen's question:

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how do you pull the reader into the story? Make him care?

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You do that in a couple of ways, feather.

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if you're writing about a real person not yourself, you create that real person the same way you'd create a made up character for the reader.

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You reveal that person's character so that readers care about him/her. Then what happens to that person matters.

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If you're writing about yourself...personal narrative...then you create YOURSELF as a real character through your vocabulary...

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how you speak about things, so that the readers begin to identify with you. You become a friend and they care about you.

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Your reaction elicts their reaction to events.

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It's the same thing as writing first person POV fiction, only you know the character quite well...it is you. :-)

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And that is where new personal narrative writers tend to falter. You know yourself too well, so you don't bother to 'create' yourself for the reader

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but 'you' don't necessarily translate well onto the page without some intentional craft.

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Now some writers have a very strong, natural narrative voice. Jay Lake, a fellow spec fiction writer, is a natural first person writer.

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He does personal narrative like falling off a log. But he's kind of the exception.

Mary Rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum , your web editor and we're talking about personal narrative. I've published seven novels (number eight will be out in November) , more than 60 short stories, and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

foxx

How much can you embelish the truth??

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Well, that has recently come into question, foxx, with the recent scandals about reporters who 'made up' interviews, and memoirs recounting events that never happened.

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Essentially, if it happened, you can tweak it.

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But making up a person or making up a 'composite person' say, from several real people, is over the line.

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Making up an event that didn't happen but could have is over the line.

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None of this is cast in stone or a law, but that's the standard these days.

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It was pretty loosely adhered to, but memoir and personal narratives that hit the 'big time' are getting closer scrutiny these days.

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An example would be the memorable Thanksgiving dinner with the whole family.

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Just as your family members won't agree on who said what exactly, you aren't expected to get it verbatim perfect either.

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But if Aunt Sally wasn't present, don't add her!

foxx

Many of my experiences are one liners. They need to bulk up some how

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Well, you apply the same techniques you do to fiction. You show. You don't tell. If your one liner is...I was out for a walk with my son and a black bear chased us up a tree...

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that's a great personal narrative waiting to happen. You describe the walk, your reactions as that bear shoved her head out of the blueberry brush, her snort

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your son's reaction, what you thought, what you said, what you both did.

charie'

What if your "truth" is stranger than fiction? Is there a way to ground it in reality so that it doesn't sound made up?

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Well, you can just tell the reader, 'truth is stranger than fiction and I know this for a fact because..' and go from there.

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Truth IS stranger than fiction, but a personal narrative doesn't pretend to be anything but truth. You may not be able to use that truth

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in a fictional story, since readers might not believe it could really happen

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but in personal narrative, you're telling the readers up front that it DID happen.

lavinia

Do memoirs have to be grizzly and full of outrageous acts?

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Oh, not at all, lavinia.

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Many of Bailey White's narratives are about weeding the garden and chatting over the fence with her nutty neighbor or shopping or making a 'friendship box' for

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a sister school with her grade school class.

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Very 'boring' stuff, only they're not boring.

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She populates them with her own comments and vivid and interesting characters and they come to life.

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It's not what you write it's how you write it that matters.

builder guy

It feels natural for me to write personal narritive, could I use this style for writing articles also??

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Absolutly, builder. I agree, you do have a strong narrative voice.

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If you're writing about someone else, say after an interview, you might want to put less of yourself in the piece.

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If you're writing about do it yourself roofing and pointing out some of the problems in a light manner, you could make it very personal.

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Depends on what you're writing for whom. A how to article is generally not written in a 'creative fiction' style, for example.

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But you might write a personal narrative about the first time you shingled a 12 in 12 slope roof and nearly broke your neck and it's very funny, and it might sell to the

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same builders mag that would want a very dry and technical how to piece.

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The more flexible your 'voice', your writing style is, the more markets you can cover in nonfiction.

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While creative nonfiction, personal narrative is a bit harder to sell then regular nonfiction, it is still much easier to sell than fiction.

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I just heard back today from one of my students. I had her send her assignment three to Dog and Kennel and sure enough, they took it.

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It was a personal narrative about completing the Canine Good Citizen test with her rescue dog.

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Remember. It's just like fiction.

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Start with a strong hook. Don't begin with a lot of backstory about who you are and why all this happened.

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Use vivid details so that your reader sees what's going on and doesn't have to listen with his/her eyes closed.

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Bring it to a dramatic high point, even if that's just your five year old blowing out the candles on his cake.

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Keep the writing tight, use strong verbs, avoid passive voice and the 'to be' verbs...all the basic 'rules' for good fiction writing.

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And work on your voice.

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Let the reader get a sense of how you feel about things as they happen.

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Don't simply describe the actions going on around you. That is one of the most common mistakes I see.

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We need to see the actions but we need to know what you, the narrator, think/feel about 'em. We need your reaction.

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Remember...something as simple as successfully passing a test with your dog can be publishable. :-)

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No heroism or catastrophe needed.

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It's what it means to YOU and thus to the reader.

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In that particular example, her universal was the success of tackling a tough task (an untrained rescue dog) and succeeding in the face of what seemed tough odds.

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Any last questions before we close here tonight?

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If you go to Writing Craft: Article Index on the LR website, you'll find Creative Nonfiction on the topic list

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and if you click on it, you'll find the articles on this that are posted on the website.

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Do join us Sunday for our casual chat.

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That's my favorite time of the week here.

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We usually get a good crowd and the conversation is fun.

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And give that personal narrative a try. It's a great way to gain a few clips.

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Good night all!

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See you Sunday.

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Have a great weekend, all.

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Happy Friday the 13th, too!

 

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