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Showing the Character 2/4/05

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Fri Feb 04 19:05:31 2005

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mary rosenblum

Hello, all!

mary rosenblum

Welcome to our Friday After hours!

mary rosenblum

I hope you've all had a good week.

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor and tonight we're talking about showing the character. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

mary rosenblum

I did have a question from someone who couldn't be here tonight.

mary rosenblum

Since it's off topic, I think I'll answer it right away.

mary rosenblum

When you decide to use a pen name, how do you go about it? Do I just pick one out and use it, or do I have to get D.B.A. form from the court, for the pen name? Thank you, Linda Morales.

mary rosenblum

This is a common question, and I know when I started out, I assumed that you must need to do something official...

mary rosenblum

before you could put a fake name on a book.

mary rosenblum

But actually, no, you don't need to do anything except type By Your Penname under the title of your book or article or story.

mary rosenblum

Of course you have to give the publisher your real name unless the bank will cash a check made out to you in that name...

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and actually, if you're on good terms with your bank, they probably will.

mary rosenblum

I use a pen name, Mary Freeman, for mysteries and sure enough...

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I'll forget to pay attention at book signings when I'm selling books...

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and I'll end up with a couple of checks made out to Mary Freeman.

mary rosenblum

It has never been a problem. :-)

wingedwarrior24

any plans on a new novel??

mary rosenblum

Well of course, winged. :-) I just heard from my agents that one publishing house definitely wants to buy the current sf book and the editor of the rival house that has it really likes it so far...

mary rosenblum

so it's for sure sold somewhere at least! :-) So it's time to think of the next one.

mary rosenblum

And I only have one agent. The 's' is a typo. :-)

mary rosenblum

I wanted to talk about showing character today...

mary rosenblum

because I get a lot of student and novice ms where the author breaks in to tell us all about Bill or Jean or whomever.

mary rosenblum

And that really really doesn't work well.

forest elf

So, book has the pen name, check has real name....

mary rosenblum

yep, elf. And your real, legal, name is on the contract, too.

wingedwarrior24

where can i find out of a book signing in my area, i would love to meet you

mary rosenblum

If you check my website periodically; www.maryrosenblum.com you'll find my schedule and updates on what is available to read.

forest elf

And of course penname goes on official website :)

mary rosenblum

And you can make your penname as public or private as you wish, elf.

mary rosenblum

I'm very public with mine.

wyrde

so what is the point of a penname... other than if you don't want to be known for writing pornography

mary rosenblum

Mostly that's the main reason...BUT...there are some business reasons.

mary rosenblum

If the salesman pitches your new book to Barnes and Noble and the buyer...

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checks the database and sees that your last two books didn't sell well...

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he'll probably buy only a few copies of the book or none.

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If your name shows up as new with no bad sales figures, he might buy several times that number of books...

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on the off chance that you'll be a big hit.

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And a pen name can also tell readers what they're getting.

mary rosenblum

If you buy a Mary Freeman book you're going to read a mystery.

mary rosenblum

If you buy Mary Rosenblum, you're going to read SF or mainstream.

mary rosenblum

If I ever do Romance, I'll probably use Freeman for that.

mary rosenblum

Mystery and romance readers overlap a lot.

wingedwarrior24

different names for different gener's a must?

mary rosenblum

Not at all.

mary rosenblum

It's just that my first mystery series was very different from my sf...much 'softer'.

mary rosenblum

I was afraid that my sf readers would be disappointed. I needn't have worried, but oh well.

wyrde

so it's best to use a penname as you start out, while you are still honing your craft?

mary rosenblum

No!!!!

mary rosenblum

BAD IDEA!

mary rosenblum

You are building name recognition. Unless you have reason not to, use youre real name.

mary rosenblum

Readers are loyal even if there aren't a whole lot of them.

mary rosenblum

I won't change my name for sales reasons.

mary rosenblum

But some writers do.

lil-duv

I want to use penname to protect my children, when do I introduce it or ask for it to be used?

mary rosenblum

Writing the kind of personal narrative I know you're speaking about, lil, I wouldn't use your real name at all if you don't want to.

mary rosenblum

Only place it has to be known is on the contract.

geezer

Don't men's books do better than women's. I noticed in my library that men don't touch titles with women authors.

mary rosenblum

That, alas is still true. Why DO you think J A Jance, who is a woman, uses her initials?

mary rosenblum

BUT you will get flack from women for doing that, you know.

mary rosenblum

Up to you.

wingedwarrior24

i tried to get some of your books but where out of print, any ideas on getting around this?

mary rosenblum

You can still get Synthesis and Other Virtual Realities from Arkham House (and amazon.com)...

mary rosenblum

you'll find some links on the website. Or wait for Eternity Shift, the next one out.

geezer

So, use a generic first name?

mary rosenblum

Up to you, geezer. Notice the Mary on my books? Not M?

mary rosenblum

I'm female. Not gonna pretend.

speckledorf

I found one of the mysteries at Books a Million not long ago..and found a couple sf at a used book store...

mary rosenblum

Yes, they're still around in used bookstores.

ashton

How do you SHOW character emotion in a "silent" scene, where the protagonist is trying to sum up the antagonist and she fears what his intentions are?

mary rosenblum

You're going to need to use thought and body language, ashton.

mary rosenblum

And ideally, you have already let us find out so much about the antagonist that we only need a few worries on her part...

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and not all the backstory of what he did when and why she's scared of him.

mary rosenblum

A lot of new writers try to dump all their characterization into two or three expository paragraphs...

mary rosenblum

and you can't simply translate that to showing.

mary rosenblum

You let the character show what he/she is like from the very first sentence onward...

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by that character's choice of words, actions, and thoughts, if he/she is a POV character.

mary rosenblum

If you have a character, say, who will be the bad guy...

mary rosenblum

you can give him some traits that will predispose readers to dislike him.

mary rosenblum

Give him several different traits so they'll connect with a wide range of people...

mary rosenblum

He's brusque and not polite. Maybe he's a heavy smoker and tosses his butts on the ground or is rude to the waitress.

mary rosenblum

Don't overdo it.

mary rosenblum

YOu don't want to turn him into a walking stereotype.

mary rosenblum

And realize that you cannot give the reader all the backstory you know.

mary rosenblum

Remember that iceberg...the tip sticks into the story. The rest of it...that's 4/5 of it...is yours to know, not ours.

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor and tonight we're talking about showing the character. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

wingedwarrior24

do long ridge membesr have to take an aptitude test for the novel course?

mary rosenblum

As far as I know now, not, winged.

ashton

what if the antagonist isn't a bad person, but the POV character thinks he is...what traits would you give the supposed "bad guy"?

mary rosenblum

Good question, ashton.

mary rosenblum

This is where you filter heavily through the POV.

mary rosenblum

LIke this....

mary rosenblum

Geraldine glared at him. His jeans had holes in them and you could see his underwear. Disgusting. He did drugs. She saw him stagger sometimes and he always stared at her house when he passed...

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she knew he was trying to figure out how to break in.

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Now later on, we'll find out that he has ms, which is why he staggers, and he loves her flowers, which is why he stares...

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and his jeans are ragged because he's a runaway who sleeps in an abandoned gas station.

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And he's really a nice guy.

mary rosenblum

But we'll see him first through Geraldine's POV and she sees a ragged drug addict who means her harm.

wingedwarrior24

what's ms?

mary rosenblum

Sorry...writerspeak for manuscript.

lordjaw

How often should dialogue vs desc be used 2 desc characters?

mary rosenblum

In that above example the description is through Geraldine's paraphrased thoughts.

mary rosenblum

Here's dialogue:

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"I'm afraid of him," Geraldine murmured to Celeste. "Aren't you? Look how he's staring at us."

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"I know he's planning on breaking in, stealing everything..."

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"I don't know." Celeste brushed white hair back from her lined face. "Maybe he's just poor, dear. Holes in your jeans don't mean you take drugs."

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"I've seen him staggering like a drunk. At ten in the morning, too!" Geradine sniffed. "Poverty doesn't do that to you."

mary rosenblum

WE have shown the reader the same details and we're still getting Geraldine's filter, but Celeste is the voice of reason.

mary rosenblum

And she will make the reader doubt Geraldine's version.

info

if you're charater isn't a POV, don't you show by what the MC observes?

mary rosenblum

That's right, info.

mary rosenblum

And think about people you meet or know slightly.

mary rosenblum

How do you know Bill is a baseball nut? He never told you.

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BUT...he talks about players as if they are his blood relatives, knows all the stats, and basically bores the heck out of you...

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at social gatherings if you don't love baseball.

mary rosenblum

You show the reader the same way.

moremary

I think the above question about ms meant multiple sclerosis

mary rosenblum

Oh duh...sorry.

mary rosenblum

Yes, in the above scene, I meant multiple sclerosis, not manuscript!

wingedwarrior24

I've heard of paraphrasing, what is that?

mary rosenblum

Not sure what context you heard it in, winged. I use the term a lot...

mary rosenblum

'paraphrased thought'.

mary rosenblum

It means presenting a character's thoughts in a narrative form..

mary rosenblum

because we don't think in dialogue and if you write thoughts like dialogue they sound phony.

mary rosenblum

We think in fragments, images...incoherent bits.

mary rosenblum

LIke this:

mary rosenblum

He was going to be late again. She was always late. They hadn't made it to a single function on time since the day she said 'I do'. Bill flung himself down on the couch.

mary rosenblum

That's she, not he in the first sentence, and the quote marks are the software's fault..

mary rosenblum

pretend they're not there.

mary rosenblum

Now he is not thinking:

mary rosenblum

She is going to be late again. She is always late. We haven't made it to a single function on time since the day she said I do.

mary rosenblum

That's the 'gist' of what he is thinking, but how often to you think in those complete sentences?

mary rosenblum

And since thoughts ARE a great way to get character across, beware of a lot of direct thought.

mary rosenblum

In fact, if you find that you are mostly doing thoughts..think about trying first person instead of third.

wingedwarrior24

does a character or charecter's take on traits of the authour?

mary rosenblum

I'm chuckling, winged.

mary rosenblum

The character IS the author unless you very consciously avoid letting him do that.

mary rosenblum

That's why it's so important to work on characterization.

mary rosenblum

If you don't...that character is your clone.

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor and tonight we're talking about showing the character. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

budro

any thoughts on naming characters

mary rosenblum

Good question, budro.

mary rosenblum

Character names are your very first chance to do characterization.

mary rosenblum

I get so many stories with totally forgettable and unimaginative names. Bob. Anne. Jean. Peter.

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Sheesh!

mary rosenblum

Get out the phone book...my favorite...and start leafing through it.

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Vladimir Smith.

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Carolina Peters.

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Like the state.

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Butch is going to bring a whole expectation to that character.

forest elf

I gave a character the last name Kingman

mary rosenblum

That's going to carry nuance...

mary rosenblum

and you can use the expectation to make the character vivid.

mary rosenblum

Pity the poor wispy kid named Butch.

tory

How important is it to give characters last names?

mary rosenblum

Very, Tory.

mary rosenblum

You may never ever use that last name in the story, but believe me, you need to know EVERYTHING about that person. Last name is just the beginning.

mary rosenblum

Unless you're creating a fantasy/sf world where last names aren't used, for example.

forest elf

Drove through Kingman, AZ and loved the name

mary rosenblum

That's a great way to get names...write them down when you think of them.

tory

Oh, I see, miss an opportunity to give further characterization!

mary rosenblum

Oh yes, and YOU need to know...last name, parents histories, childhood, family pets...everything

budro

I've been saving all the names from all the junk emails I get

mary rosenblum

Hey, I get some doozies, budro. You wouldn't believe the ways you can misspell Rosenblum.

mary rosenblum

Wyrde made a comment way earlier about using the name Bauke Kamstra...your real name, wyrde?

mary rosenblum

Too bad, it's a GREAT character name!

info

one favorite of mine is to start spelling somethng that I know the spellcheck is going to ding and start looking through it's choices.

mary rosenblum

Joan Vinge, a SF writer friend of mine has gotten some good ones that way, info.

roe

If we give our characters unusual first names should we keep the last names fairly simple? like vladimir smith???

mary rosenblum

That's a good rule of thumb, roe.

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Not an absolute.

mary rosenblum

Look at 'Indiana Jones'.

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That's a vivid and easy to remember name.

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We have an unusual name: Indiana, and a common name; Jones.

bud

Tennessee Williams

mary rosenblum

Exactly. Nevada Barr, the mystery writer.

ashton

And names can mean a lot if you are doing a regional story, true? Like Bubba, the stereotypical bully in the south.

mary rosenblum

yep. And you can turn that stereotype on its ear.

mary rosenblum

What if Bubba is the guy with the most brains and conscience in the story?

ptomainebrain

but sometimes the irony in the name can be fun. I wrote a short about a motel housekeeper with the name Mercedes

mary rosenblum

There you go.

info

where I live, there are about a half a dozen men with the name Richard Simmons. If we were to use a common famous name knowing there are so many of them, would we be liable when using them in a novel or short?

mary rosenblum

No. Not unless you made the character recognizably one of the real people AND it harmed that person in a material way.

mary rosenblum

Not likely.

mary rosenblum

Now I DID have to change a name after I'd completed a novel...my second, Chimera.

mary rosenblum

No...it was my first, that's right.

mary rosenblum

Anyway, I found out that a SF fan in Seattle had the same name.

mary rosenblum

Coincidence, but because he was an SF fan AND he lived in the same area as I do...

mary rosenblum

it was likely some people would think I was referring to him somehow.

mary rosenblum

Pain in the backside, believe me!

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor and tonight we're talking about showing the character. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

glennwalker

Do you tell your characters what to do or do they tell you?

mary rosenblum

Glenn, I create characters who can carry on the action of the plot...

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and if they can't, I take them out of the story OR I change the story so that they CAN do what I need.

mary rosenblum

A real character has to act like a real person.

mary rosenblum

If that character does something totally out of character because the plot requires it, all your readers know that she's not a real person...

mary rosenblum

she's a plot puppet. And they don't care about her.

lil-duv

isn't that what the disclaimer in front of books is for?

mary rosenblum

Yep..if you think it's you...you're wrong!

mary rosenblum

If you realize your characater wouldn't do something...change the plot or start over with a new characater.

wingedwarrior24

are these characters of people we know?

mary rosenblum

I don't use real people, winged. I create characters, BUT...

mary rosenblum

every character you create is a blend of yourself and all the people you know well...

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you extrapolate aspects of those people, exagerate them, make them main character traits rather than...

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trivial attributes.

info

Don't you have to help the characters out sometimes? I mean, sometimes a character would miss something unless another character makes him/her act or react, true?

mary rosenblum

Of course, info.

mary rosenblum

If your character is Superman and gets everything right, does everything perfectly...we get bored. He's not like human, fallable US.

mary rosenblum

Let him make mistakes, stumble, doubt, fail.

ashton

How would you SHOW what the POV character is thinking when she's highly confused? Say she's been thinking one thing but keeps getting mixed signals? ....example?

mary rosenblum

Depends, ashton. Do you mean from within her POV or if she is not POV character?

mary rosenblum

If you're in her POV, simple. She thinks.

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If she's not the POV...

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this is where you show the reader and your POV guesses...

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Jennifer turned white. "I didn't mean it that way," Angela stammered.

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"Sure." Jennifer turned away, her shoulders rigid. "I'm sure you didn't."

mary rosenblum

What is Jennifer showing us?

mary rosenblum

That whatever Angela said upset her, right?

mary rosenblum

And we'll have enough clues from earlier in the story that WE know what is going on in Jennifer's head.

lil-duv

when you are describing a character's appearance, should it always be at the beginning when you introduce them?

mary rosenblum

You need to give us at least a couple of visual attributes right away, lil...we'll see that character even if you don't describe them...

mary rosenblum

and you don't want the reader to find out that the sixty year old woman she's been seeing is a twenty-four year old!

mary rosenblum

But you have to let the character show herself to us...and it's REALLY hard in first person. How often do you think about how you look?

wingedwarrior24

I quote you on saying that a teacher said, "Writers are born, not made." How can you tell if you were 'born'?

mary rosenblum

Winged, let me tell you a little story.

mary rosenblum

I wanted to be a writer when I grew up. And my kindly eleventh grade English teacher said to me, Honey, writers are born, not made, and if you want to write, you should think about a career in something like journalism. You'll never be a fiction writer.

mary rosenblum

I sure wish I had that teacher's address. I'd LOVE to send her a rather LARGE box of books and magazines...I have filled about five feet of bookshelf space with my publications so far.

mary rosenblum

So you know what I say to that kind of [expletive deleted] comment?

mary rosenblum

Just hang onto that teacher's address so YOU can send the box of books.

mary rosenblum

Steve Perry, another local writer, one whose Star Wars book made the NYTimes bestseller list got the SAME song and dance from HIS teacher.

info

CMaybe Jane was right, Megan thought as she grabbed a pad of paper, pen and a candle. Taking them to the table, she set them down and lit the candle.

info

can you tell me if that this needs more of a showing?

mary rosenblum

well, I'll tell you what you have shown me here:

mary rosenblum

Something has made Megan think that whatever Jane said was right. She seems struck with urgency...she grabs that pad...and determined to write.

mary rosenblum

I'm sure I would have enough clues from earlier paragraphs to know what was going on. That's fine.

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor and tonight we're talking about showing the character. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

mary rosenblum

Your homework for the week... :-)

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is to pay attention to body language.

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If someone is testy, notice how they hold their shoulders, what their face looks like.

mary rosenblum

If someone is ready to cry...what are the physical clues?

mary rosenblum

Then you can let the reader know what is going on in your character's head.

zany

this is where I am having trouble I tell a story and I describe what one character is thinking and then I describe what another character is thinking and my instructor says the story has to be told by one person and that person would not know what the other is thinking.

mary rosenblum

You're using omniscient POV in other words, zany.

mary rosenblum

That means we can look into the head of any character, can enter that POV.

mary rosenblum

And thus the POV (point of view) shifts around from person to person in the story.

mary rosenblum

Now you CAN do this, but most writing teachers discourage it when you're starting out.

mary rosenblum

It's very difficult to make readers care about several characaters in a short story.

mary rosenblum

In novel, you can have two or three main characaters easily.

mary rosenblum

If you want the reader to care about a character, it's better to stay in that character's POV.

mary rosenblum

If the story is very strongly plot driven and we don't really have to care about any of the characters, then omniscient works.

zany

Why it is the only way I know to write

mary rosenblum

That's the only way everybody knows how to write at first, zany. :-)

mary rosenblum

That's why you're taking the course. :-) BUT...even if you want to write novels, mainly...

mary rosenblum

the techniques you learn in the short fiction course will make your novel much stronger.

mary rosenblum

The only difference between novel and short story is in plot complexity and size.

mary rosenblum

The craft is the same.

mary rosenblum

And my experience with short story writing has made me a much stronger novelist. Pacing is never an issue.

mary rosenblum

The novel course should be available from LR this summer sometime, barring complications.

ashton

Is it possible to have a short story where the pov character and the secondary character become just as important to the reader? I mean, instead of just haivng the POV character get top billing in the readers hearts.

mary rosenblum

Sure, Ashton. I've done that many times. I often have more than one character that the reader identifies with, even if I stick to a single pov...

mary rosenblum

but these are mostly novelettes and novellas...10,000 - 20,000 words long.

mary rosenblum

That is a hard length to sell as an unpublished writer.

zany

So I need to try to pick one character and tell the story form their viewpoint and then I should be okay is that correct?

mary rosenblum

That is the easiest way to start out, zany. As your skill increases, you can start breaking those 'rules'...

mary rosenblum

but it will give you a deeper story, most of the time, with more complexity since we'll get to know that character, too.

wingedwarrior24

will members alreadt taking break into print be notified?

mary rosenblum

Oh I'm sure you will! Don't worry.

info

even if you stay in one POV, couldn't you still make the reader care about other characters? Take Where the Red Fern Grows for instance. The MC is a young teenager but someone around his age dies. Granted that kid was a pain but as a reader, one had to feel sorry for the pain in the backside dying.

mary rosenblum

Certainly, info.

mary rosenblum

In some of my most successful stories, the character the readers cared about most was NOT the POV.

zany

Thank you very much Mary it was not explained to me so I could understand and I was getting upset so I just quite doing my assignments because I kept thinking what am I doing wrong!

mary rosenblum

I'm sorry that happened, zany. Never be afraid to write to your instructor and tell that person you don't understand and ask for more details.

mary rosenblum

We all THINK we're being clear, but sometimes we are not. I'm as guilty of that as anyone!

mary rosenblum

If you watch TV or Hollywood movies, you'll notice how the camera zooms in for a closeup...

mary rosenblum

when a character has just learned something or seen something or is thinking something important?

mary rosenblum

You can do the same thing with your description to tell the reader...

mary rosenblum

this is important!

mary rosenblum

If you remember my example with Jennifer and Angela...

mary rosenblum

I had Jennifer turning white and then turning away.

mary rosenblum

Maybe this is a mystery, and Jennifer has murdered her husband and so far, gotten away with it.

mary rosenblum

And Angela's chance comment makes Jennifer think that Angela knows the truth.

mary rosenblum

So her reaction shows us that she has interpreted Angela's comment to mean she is in danger of exposure.

zany

I read mostly novels hardly any short stories so I was writing in the form I am use to reading and didn't understand the difference. My instuctor is a nice person I just was really upset and thought I was really stupid....which is easy for me sometimes

mary rosenblum

That's why it's important to ask for clarification, zany.

mary rosenblum

For all of you who are students..

mary rosenblum

if you don't tell us that you aren't sure why this isn't working, we assume you 'get it'...

mary rosenblum

Never be afraid to say...'Tell me why it has to be this way'.

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor and tonight we're talking about showing the character. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

wingedwarrior24

how much can be made from a 1000 word short story?

mary rosenblum

Well, winged, clearly a short short like that is nothing more than a brief glimpse of a larger story.

mary rosenblum

It's like walking down a street at night and looking in through uncurtained front windows...(my favorite thing to do).

mary rosenblum

You catch a brief glimpse...a scene...that suggests a larger story.

mary rosenblum

A short short is like that. We have probably one interaction or at the most two that give us our VERY small and intimate problem, climax, resolution.

wingedwarrior24

can you sell story ideas?

mary rosenblum

Nah. :-)

mary rosenblum

Ideas are useless...it's what you do with them that will sell or not.

geezer

Can we contact our teachers between lessons for claification?

mary rosenblum

Certainly. Submit a letter the same way you submit your assignments.

mary rosenblum

I get at least a couple every week.

mary rosenblum

Don't forget...it's not a test every time. The idea is for us to help you get better...

mary rosenblum

if you have questions, we need to answer them.

lil-duv

some mailing labels are just for mailing letters,they say letter enclosed

mary rosenblum

There you go. Thanks, lil. (I'm not on that end of the operation!)

wingedwarrior24

any markets for begginer writers?

mary rosenblum

All markets are for beginning writers.

mary rosenblum

All you have to do is to write a good story or propose an article an editor needs.

mary rosenblum

Some are harder to break into than others...you'll compete with more seasoned pros...and others are smaller or pay less...

mary rosenblum

and get fewer submissions from pros.

ashton

There's no set word count in #7 and I'm given up to 15 scenes. Even if the word count is right for a certain market...should I focus more on shorter, less complex storied right now? Because you'd mentioned novellas and how most first time writers don't get picked up with such high word counts. Never mind...(ha!) I see that I've gone beyond the "short story" now. I have many problems going on. I think I'd better save this one for later and switch to a different short story that's real considered a short.

mary rosenblum

While a really strong, good story will sell...it IS more likely to sell if it is under 5000 words...

mary rosenblum

and some markets limit subs to 3000 or 4000 words.

wingedwarrior24

any suggestion for a begginer short story?

mary rosenblum

Whatever works for you, winged. Read the paper, look around you, think of problems. Then think of a character who might get involved...

zany

Aston had a story accepted today by the editor of their newspaper. Congradulations ashton!

mary rosenblum

Cool, Ashton! Which paper? What kind of piece!

ashton

Thanks! Local paper....a story I wrote on the dumping and killing of animals

mary rosenblum

That's great! Way to go! If you'll email me the details, I'll include it in the website update that I'll be sending out this weekend..

mary rosenblum

I have several new sales to announce.

mary rosenblum

Including one student who sold her first assignment to Chicken Soup for the Soul series.

info

This may be a silly question but if you are working on an assignment and it is required to inform your instructor what you are planning to do for the following assignment when you send in the present one, is it a good idea to write a letter to your instructor that you have too many ideas and need advice or is it better to let each idea simmer until you can decide?

mary rosenblum

I love it when my students send me several options. I can tell them which one I think is the strongest idea. They don't always take my advice either, and that's fine.

mary rosenblum

Well, this has been a fun Oregon Hour.

mary rosenblum

Do join us Sunday...

mary rosenblum

for our casual chat...

mary rosenblum

no topic, anything goes. :-)

mary rosenblum

That's the same time, same place...only I'll be down there in the auditorium, too.

mary rosenblum

Remember, next time you're tempted to TELL us what is going on with a character, figure out how to show that to us.

mary rosenblum

Have a good weekend, all!

mary rosenblum

See you on Sunday!

mary rosenblum

I'll post the transcript of this at Writing Craft: Forum Transripts

mary rosenblum

Thanks for coming, all!

mary rosenblum

Good night!

 

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