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Starting with Slant: Nonfiction Articles 1/31/06

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Tue Jan 31 12:03:35 2006

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Tue Jan 31 13:33:32 2006



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mary rosenblum

Hello all.

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I hope you have a very fine weekend.

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This is the Tuesday Forum with me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're talking about slant and nonfiction today. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question button or the word bubble next to the red question mark at the top of the screen, or use the ask a question icon in order to ask a question. Your regular send bar won't reach me! You can also type /ask in front of your question in your regular send bar to reach me.

mary rosenblum

This is the final day to submit to the LR New Beginnings anthology, remember. :-)

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When I check my email before bed...probably about 11 PM Pacific Time the anthology is closed.

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If you want to do a last minute quickie...the guidelines are on the website...

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Just click on the LR Christmas Anthology and you'll find the details there...

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as well as my comments on the previous anthology. They'll help you understand what I'm looking for.

mary rosenblum

I haven't done a nonfiction topic for awhile, and thought it was about time to return to that.

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Many of my LR students falter when they hit Assignment Three, a required nonfiction project.

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If you think of writing in terms of fiction only, it can be a sudden change of gears.

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But actually, nonfiction writing has a couple of benefits for you, even if you're primarily a fiction writer.

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Your writing will improve...you have to write tight, clean prose in order to publish in nonfiction...

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and publishing in NF is going to boost your confidence when you get those rejection slips.

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You know you CAN write publishable material!

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Plus, nonfiction simply pays a lot better than fiction...to the tune of about ten times as much overall.

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If your dream is to support yourself entirely by your writing, you really do need to look to nonfiction...

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to keep the rent paid. Write fiction for your spirit. :-)

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Writing nonfiction is much easier than writing fiction.

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Why?

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Writing strong fiction requires a strong sense of 'story'.

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Your writing has to be strong, but you must also tell a strong story that interests readers...

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and that is a very subjective thing! A 'strong story' to one editor is ho hum to another.

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But in nonfiction the only real requirement is good writing.

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Once you understand slant it's just a matter of breaking in.

kungfumama

Mary, the biggest show stopper for me in writing non-fiction is making sure I get my facts straight ...

kungfumama

I double-check everything, but I'm so afraid that I might have missed something that it just stops me cold.

mary rosenblum

This is probably a personal issue you're just going to have to face, kung...and probably..

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when you've published a couple of pieces and the police do NOT show up on your doorstep...

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to arrest you for 'false statements', you'll begin to gain confidence. :-)

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Either you have found your facts or you have not, kung. :-)

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But it's very easy to feel insecure.

geezer

Why I don't care for NF in magazines is that the stories don't tend to have enough depth.

mary rosenblum

And that's not the writer's fault, geeze.

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That is what the editors want.

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If you want to cover a NF topic in real depth, you have to write it in book length form...

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What magazines offer is something like a digest of interesting topics...you get a brief glimpse.

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Authors often go on to write extensive, book length works, that cover a topic in depth...

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but they may have published a dozen or so short articles on the same general topic, first.

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And that is where novice NF writers often run into trouble.

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You TRY to cover the topic in depth.

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The editor takes one look at your query letter and knows that if you do the job you're proposign to do...

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it's going to run WAY longer than she wants...

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and she rejects it.

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Identifying what an editor needs is the real work in NF.

mary rosenblum

The benefits are great...if you sell a couple or three pieces to an editor, that editor will often begin to assign you topics.

mary rosenblum

It is very nice to get a request to write something.

mary rosenblum

This is the Tuesday Forum with me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're talking about slant and nonfiction today. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question button or the word bubble next to the red question mark at the top of the screen, or use the ask a question icon in order to ask a question. Your regular send bar won't reach me! You can also type /ask in front of your question in your regular send bar to reach me.

sallyk

How do you develop balance between length and scope?

mary rosenblum

The real key is to narrow your topic.

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When you think it's narrow enough, you probably need to narrow it more.

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It's actually similar to learning to plot a short short story....think small.

dfitz

I am trying to write a travel piece based on an experience as a young man. I'm running into trouble finding sources for information on this particular location. So far the internet has turned up almost nothing. Contacting local people has not resulted in any success either. Any suggestions?

mary rosenblum

Is this destined for the NF market, dfitz? And as an informational piece or as a personal narrative?

dfitz

It is an informational peice for NF with a personal antedote as the hook

mary rosenblum

Travel writing is a very lucrative type of NR, dfitz. It's pretty competitve, too. Editors look for primary source material.

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That means you went there, or your informant went there.

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Most travel writers I know actually visit the places they write about.

lapart

Is it fair to the reader to cover topics that interest you, or is it better to expand your interests and topics?

mary rosenblum

Well, lapart, the editor isn't going to let you be 'unfair' to the reader...that editor just won't buy something readers don't want to read. :-)

mary rosenblum

You might be unfair to yourself if you write on only one topic! :-)

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However, it is a good idea to begin in an area of interest to you.

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Say you're an avid gardener.

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You know 'garden speak'...you know the familiar terms for conditions, equipment, and the like.

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You know what concerns gardeners and you probably read gardening magazines...

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so you will be able to write an effective piece much more easily than you can write one, say, on greyhound racing when you've never owned a dog...

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and never attended a race.

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BUT...

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freelance writers write on any topic they are handed.

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When you get that request for the greyhound article..

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you go to your nearest greyhound track and make contacts...

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with the race dog owners...

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and interview a few people so that you can now write the article.

dfitz

This was a place I live in the early 1950's. I'm sure things have changed. It is a story about a lake where I used to fish.

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You know, dfitz, considering the strength of the nostalgia market, I'd write it as a personal narrative, recalling those bygone days...

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and making some kind of subtle point.

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If you return to visit the lake, then you could write a travel piece, but the travel market is all about..

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what to see NOW and where to stay and eat NOW.

janecj333

An article in Natl. Geographic I just read, about junk that washes off ships and ends up on Hawaii's beaches, the author slanted it to shock us with the variety and amount of junk; I was shocked, however, that the junk just lays on the beach with no one cleaning it up and so the article lost me

janecj333

another section of the same article showed a baby pelican that had died from a stomach filled with plastic; but the crux of the article should have been that such deaths are rare, because most chicks regurgitate the mess and fledge just fine.

mary rosenblum

Well, clearly that article didn't reach you as a reader, jane.

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But as with fiction, no single piece of writing works for everyone. :-)

mary rosenblum

Editors try to satisfy the majority of their readers and believe me, every editor gets complaints from someone about every issue.

jyinxy

Basically are you saying that we should write what we know?

mary rosenblum

Not at all, jyinxy... Like Rikki Tikki Tavi...go run and find out. :-) BUt as a novice writer...

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breaking into NF you will find it easier to succeed if you write about something that is familiar to you at first.

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Think of writing as riding a bike.

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When you first start learning you wobble all over the place...

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and if you are also trying to balance a bag of groceries on the handlebars, you're most likely going to have ...

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a tough ride home.

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Once you can pedal straight and you ride easily, you'll have no trouble hauling that bag of groceries home.

tolkienlvr

Mary, how do you deal with selling rights to magazines for article topics you'd later like to turn into a non-fiction book? How can you maintain the right to write the book later?

mary rosenblum

You are selling the same rights to nonfiction mags as to fiction mags, tolkien.

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That is, you are selling first serial rights, or first world or electronic rights...

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depending on what the magazine or ezine buys.

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That permits you to use the material later.

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IT's different for syndicated newspaper columns.

janecj333

I guess it's as if nonfiction publications use writers who try too hard to slant a piece, instead of just being objective

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The editor decides what he/she wants to include in the magazine, jane, and then includes it.

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If the readers stop buying it, the magazine fails.

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In the publishing world, the reality is that publishers cater to the people with the money...the customers.

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They don't publish stuff that is 'good for us' only, unless it's a nonprofit group.

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LIke it or not, the readers have the final say in what gets published.

mary rosenblum

If you have an agenda you want to get across in either fiction or non, you have to learn how to do it subtly.

barbara blair

I've written a NF book, do you recommend excerpts for magazines.

mary rosenblum

Certainaly, barbara, but direct excerpts from a book are not likely to work well for most magazines.

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But what WILL work is to write articles based on your book. That will help you sell the book later.

sady

Please talk about slant on, say, a history article. :)

mary rosenblum

This is the Tuesday Forum with me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're talking about slant and nonfiction today. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question button or the word bubble next to the red question mark at the top of the screen, or use the ask a question icon in order to ask a question. Your regular send bar won't reach me! You can also type /ask in front of your question in your regular send bar to reach me.

mary rosenblum

Yes, let's talk about slant.

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Actually, when you write as a pro freelancer, you begin with slant.

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Slant is defining the audience and interest.

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Let's look at our garden magazine.

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You might offer the editor an article about starting a flower garden...and get rejected!

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That's WAY too broad for say, a 1000 word article or less.

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What kind of garden?

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What climate?

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What size?

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Each of these is a feature length article!

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So you look at your magazine.

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Ask yourself who the readers are. The ads will help you there.

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Let's say this is Fine Gardening Magazine.

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YOu realize that most of the articles are about specific varieties of plants and shrubs...

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and you realize that this magazine is written for the serious gardener who is well beyond the need for a 'how to start' article ...

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and is fine tuning a show garden or looking for new cultivars.

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But you want to write that 'starting a garden' topic...so you narrow it way down...

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and perhaps come up with 'planning for texture'...

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an article on grouping various leaf textures to create visual interest...

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and that's still a bit too broad...

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so now you narrow it to 'texture in the dry climate garden'...

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and you focus on various leaf textures among dry climate plants.

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And you sell it to Fine Gardening with an emphasis on specific cultivars...

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and then sell 'Planning the Dry Climate Perrenial Garden' to a southwest regional magazine.

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For THOSE readers, who are not as experienced as the Fine Gardening readers, you ...

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include more general suggestions for types of plants to use for a garden that needs little watering...

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and you don't focus on texture, but rather on dought tolerance.

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See how the two articles differ?

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And they draw on the same research information.

tolkienlvr

Mary, how taboo is it to offer an accepting mag editor "first serial rights" (so you can write a book on the topic using the same info later) when the accepting mag's website clearly states they "buy all rights?" I'm in a situation now where the "all rights" mag editor wants the article and I want to sell to them, (I've sold to them before), but I also want to keep my options open for a book later. Not sure how to handle this professionally. Any tips - what are my options?

mary rosenblum

It's totally acceptable, tolkien. I alter contracts now and then. You really cannot afford to sell all...

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rights here if you want to use this same piece as part of your book.

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Since you've sold to this editor before, email or call, explain the problem and see what you can work out.

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The editor should be able to accomodate a more specific license.

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I don't know why he would need all rights.

lapart

Mary, can you write sample slant for topic Joining bookclubs

mary rosenblum

Joining Bookclubs, lapart?

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Well, first define for yourself whom you are talking to.

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Readers, right?

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Go scout the bookstore for magazines that will be read by avid readers.

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Skim through magazines until you find one or two that seem to speak to readers of the sort you're addressing.

mary rosenblum

The 'joining bookclubs' is way too broad.

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YOu're going to narrow it to mystery readers or nonfiction readers or SF readers...

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and you'll then address the question of finding bookclubs that offer the best in the genre you prefer.

lapart

or starting a bookclub in your community

mary rosenblum

That's an entirely different article. Again...who are your readers? Probably people who are active in their community.

mary rosenblum

Look for magazines that offer articles on community action.

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You might find some in the Christian category, others of a secular nature.

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Write your article for THOSE readers only.

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Say you pick a Christian magazine. It features articles on community outreach through the church...

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so you pitch the editor a 'Starting a Community Christian Bookclub' article...

lapart

and interview other book club members

mary rosenblum

That would be a very good idea, lapart.

mary rosenblum

Realize that editors don't usually pay for 'secondary reasearch' only...ie books, internet.

mary rosenblum

They want 'original or primary research'. That means you are an expert, or you interview an expert.

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You interview someone who has started a communith book club.

barbara blair

what's the best way to query to NF magazines and what source has a list of the NF magazines?

mary rosenblum

Start by familiarizing yourself with the magazine, barbara.

mary rosenblum

The writers market lists are a good place to start, but to succeed you really do need to read a few issues of the magazine.

mary rosenblum

Fine Gardening and Organic Gardening magazines may have similar guidelines...

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they want gardening articles.

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But they are VERY different magazines and what suits one will not suit the other.

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If you just guess, you become an annoyance to the editor...

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Every single editor I've asked ....and I have asked many...has told me that the biggest reason they...

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reject both fiction and nonfiction is that the submission or query is inappropriate for the magazine.

mudhen

is there any discount single issue place or other

mudhen

economical way to get sample issues, no library available

mary rosenblum

You know, mud, you can try used book stores or the thrift stores...sometimes they sell back issues cheap.

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I'd try the internet.

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Try ebay.

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Or one of the 'swap lists' like Craig's List...

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and see if someone will sell you a few back issues for cheap.

sallyk

Any tips on how to develop "subtle"?

mary rosenblum

Yes, sally. :-)

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Subtle is not beating the reader over the head with something.

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Let's look at Jane's example of the Nat'l Geographic article on beach trash.

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Say you were asked to write an article about birding on a Carribean island.

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You write the article slanted to birders...

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listing species, local bird watching tours, season to go, and you slip in a glimpse...

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of a dead bird tangled in the plastic holder from a sixpack of pop cans.

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That slips by the editor...and readers who don't really concern themselves with the environment...

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suddenly find themselves thinking of this image when a 'ban plastic holders for sixpacks' bill comes up in their...

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state legislature.

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Perhaps you couldn't sell and article ranting about how these piece of plastic are a problem..

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and if you did, this unconcerned individual would not have read it because...

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he hates listening to all this doomsaying.

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But that single brief image of that dead bird when he cares about birds may actually make an impression.

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That is being subtle. :-)

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(Or sneaky...choose your word. :-) )

janecj333

doctor's offices might give you their old issues :)

mary rosenblum

Oh, good idea, jane.

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Try putting signs up on local bulletin boards or in a local 'want ads' paper...

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and list magazines you want back issues of.

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Mostly they go to recycling.

kungfumama

Mary, can you touch on writing a query letter?

mary rosenblum

This is the Tuesday Forum with me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're talking about slant and nonfiction today. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question button or the word bubble next to the red question mark at the top of the screen, or use the ask a question icon in order to ask a question. Your regular send bar won't reach me! You can also type /ask in front of your question in your regular send bar to reach me.

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Yes, kung.

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Poorly written query letters are another big reason people get rejected...

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Editors skim query letters quickly if they don't know you as a regular contributor.

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They really don't use a lot of unsolicited ms...they hand out a lot of assignments..and will start handing 'em to you...

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once you've broken in there.

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So your query letter needs to do two things..

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1. Grab the editor's attention

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2. Answer all her questions, now.

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Her questions are: What are you offering me? Why should I buy it? Can you actually do this?

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You need to answer ALL of these.

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That means you cannot be vague.

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"I want to offer you an article on starting a garden' gets you a fast 'no thanks'.

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YOu need to be very specific about what you are offering.

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I see a lot of that vague...'I am offering an article on family problems'.

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Wow. What does THAT tell me?

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it's not about Zebras, that's about it.

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I want to know if you're saying something my readers are interested in.

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What kind of problem?

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Most important is your hook.

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That is your first sentence of the query letter, and it needs to be powerful.

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Often, you can use the hook from your article.

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Dry climate gardening challenges even the experienced gardener. When water is scarce, intesting plant textures can create dramatic interest...

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even in semi-arid climates.

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That hook tells the editor what the article is about and tells her that you can write a good hook...maybe you can write a good article, too.

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So she reads on to see what you're offering.

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Now you're pitching to Fine Gardening, so you tell her in your query...

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that you will focus on specific cultivars. You make it clear you know her readers are already...

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accomplished gardeners, you won't waste her time with a beginner's how to piece.

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If you have interviewed an executive from the High Country Gardens nursery, you mention this...

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she now knows you have done original research.

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She tells you, yes, send this to me...

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and...here's the real payoff!!!!...

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if she already has an article on this topic but is impressed by your very professional query...

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she calls you up. NO, I can't use this, she tells you. But if you want to do me an article on spring bulbs for southern gardens...

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I can use one of about 1200 words.

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Nonfic editors always can use more solid contributors.

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The very first query letter I ever sent out netted me a rejection...and a monthly column for that magazine!

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You'll find a couple of articles on writing query letters on the LR website.

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Look in Writing Craft: Nonfiction.

andi

do you have the questions already when you are going to interview someone?

mary rosenblum

It's a good idea, Andi, to know what your slant is when you approach an interviewee.

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Have those questions ready...it's easy to get tongue tied when you're new or if the person...

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is somewhat intimidating.

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Ask way more questions than you think you need...

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the minute you sit down to write the article you'll realize you need an answer to a question you didn't ask.

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It's a good idea to ask the person if you can follow up wtih email or a phone call later if you come across some lacking piece of information.

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And be flexible.

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If the conversation takes an interesting turn, follow it!

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REmember...for every batch of research you do, you can probably sell three to five articles.

mary rosenblum

One of my nonfic students sold a total of five different articles all based on one topic before she finished the course.

mary rosenblum

She had queries out for about three more when she graduated, so I don't know what her final tally was.

mary rosenblum

Do some homework in your local Barnes and Noble or any bookstore with a big magazine rack.

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Browse a bit.

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Let the magazines and their contents inspire you.

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If you think of an idea to try for this magazine...

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buy the issue. Read it, analyze the readers. Are they low income? Middle class? Rich?

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Men? Women? Age range?

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What does the editor seem to be interested in?

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THEN come up with your article slant.

paminnapa

a good source for questions is checking out the guest transcripts from this website...

mary rosenblum

Thank you, Pam. :-) I'll take that as a compliment.

mary rosenblum

Actually, if you do that...

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realize that I have an agenda when I interview a guest for LR...

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and that agenda is to focus on topics that will expand necessary knowlege for my audience...

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aspiring and novice writers.

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My questions are all related to that agenda.

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I list basic questions I want to see covered...asked by me or by a member of the audience...

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but if the conversation takes an interesting turn, we explore that interesting turn.

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If I had a different audience...

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not writers, say, but fans of this particular writer....

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I'd ask different questions. Slant applies in this type of public interview just as it does in a written article.

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Nonfiction is a nice sideline even for you die hard fiction writers.

mary rosenblum

You really do have to learn how to write 'tight' in nonficiton.

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Editors do NOT pay you a buck a word for words they are going to edit out!

gskearney

Might be interesting to post that question list in advance for some interview, if you can get the person to agree. Then we can see how you manage the interview. Give us more of an idea how it's done. Perhaps even have a session where the audience doesn't get to ask questions until later. --gk

mary rosenblum

Hmmm...I could do that.

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Actually, the only real difference if nobody asked questions would be that the interview would proceed in a different order. :-)

tarsus

Magazines

tarsus

writers to break into?

mary rosenblum

Good magazines for writers to break into, tarsus?

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Well, if you have something the editor really wants, you can break into the very top magazines...

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but generally, if you start submitting to the top paying markets...

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like Sunset, Good Housekeeping, etc..

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you are competing with top level freelancers.

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If you have a piece that you are SURE suits these mags to a t, try it...

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but don't feel personally discouraged if you get rejected. These mags get tons...

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over very poorly written amateur queries every day.

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The smaller magazines that don't pay as well don't interest top freelancers much...

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so you have a better chance of success there when you have no clips.

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The general route is to get clips from small mags and 'move up the food chain' to larger..

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and larger magazines as you gain experience in writing articles.

tarsus

are magazines easier to break into than ezines?

mary rosenblum

No. A lot of ezines don't pay, and ezines have proliferated on the web.

mary rosenblum

It's pretty easy to get published in one of the ezines.

mary rosenblum

You have a few top level ezines... Slate.com is one.

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SciFiction is another.

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They pay VERY well and are VERY hard to break into.

janecj333

I thought SciFiction went under

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Oh it may have.

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That's right.

sallyk

How important are conferences for NF writers?

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Anything that improves your craft is worth your time and money, sally.

mary rosenblum

It's a much larger market than fiction and you can break in just fine without ever networking.

mary rosenblum

YOu can do the same in fiction, too. Networking just makes it easier.

mary rosenblum

Well, this has been a fun Oregon hour. :-)

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I'm waiting for our next Pacific storm to come stomping in...glad it held off.

mary rosenblum

I'll be reading my anthology submissions over the coming week or two and will get the anthology posted as soon as I can. :-)

mary rosenblum

I'll send an email out to announce it when it's up.

tolkienlvr

Mary please clarify for me. Ex. If a writer sells "all rights" to a profile piece on say Martin Luther King Jr. - can that same writer later use quotes from the interview with king and some info from the profile article in a compilation book on heroes of the civil rights movement?

mary rosenblum

Sure tolkien.

mary rosenblum

You didn't sell your information. You only sold those words in the article...

mary rosenblum

as long as what you use in your book chapter is substantially different from the words in your article...

mary rosenblum

you're fine.

mary rosenblum

Thanks for coming all!

mary rosenblum

I'll post this in the usual place:

mary rosenblum

Writing Craft: Forum Transcripts.

mary rosenblum

And do join us tomorrow...

mary rosenblum

same time and place...

mary rosenblum

for our casual chat. No topic. We just talk about whatever. :-)

mary rosenblum

It's fun.

janp

And Speck provides the cheescake and choc.

mary rosenblum

Yep!

 

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