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mary rosenblum
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Hello all!
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mary rosenblum
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I hope you had a good weekend
and got lots of writing done. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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I wanted to talk a bit about
internal plot today, since a lot of novice writers really aren't sure what
makes a plot internal or external.
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mary rosenblum
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And many tend to focus on one
or the other...which weakens a story.
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mary rosenblum
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Essentially, external plot
comes derives from an outside problem..
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mary rosenblum
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outside, meaning from outside
the POV character's self.
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mary rosenblum
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It might be a murder, a
sinking ship that strands the POV on an island, a marriage going on the
rocks..
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mary rosenblum
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but it is an outside series of
events that create the problem the character must face and resolve...or
fail to resolve.
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christopher dale
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TO me - internal plot is what
the character is going through mentally. Like trying to get over the death
of his fanmily, who has been brutally murdered, while external would be his
searching out and kiiling the murderer.
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mary rosenblum
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But it's more than just mental
anguish, chris. .. It's a flaw in the character that needs to be 'fixed' to
make that character...
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mary rosenblum
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more successful. In your
example, if your MC has shut himself away from caring about anybody...
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mary rosenblum
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because he never wants to feel
the agony that the death of his family caused again...
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mary rosenblum
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he will be forever isolated
from human closeness...a self imposed flaw...
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mary rosenblum
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and if, in the course of
defeating the evil king or what have you...
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mary rosenblum
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he manages to break down that
defensive shell and allow himself to care about someone again...
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mary rosenblum
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he has resolved the flaw that
will hamper him as a person.
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mary rosenblum
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If he's just grieving over his
family, but managing to get on wiht his life just fine...
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mary rosenblum
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it's not really a flaw.
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christopher dale
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True. And in the course of my
novel, my MC finds taht there IS life after his family abut he has to come
close to losing EVERYTHING first, before he realizes what he really DOES
have.. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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sounds as if it works, Chris.
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bengalrose
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So a character struggling with
guilt over a death of a loved one for whom he feels responsible, that would
be an internal conflict, right?
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mary rosenblum
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Yep.
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bengalrose
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The guilt is crippling the
character and preventing him from reaching his potential, or solving the
crime for that matter. Comming to grips with the guilt and healing himself
would be the internal struggle.
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mary rosenblum
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Exactly, bengal. Unless that
character can conquer his guilt, he will be forever crippled by it.
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mary rosenblum
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And do realize, that generally
either the internal OR the external plot is the main plot.
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mary rosenblum
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In many genres, the external
plot is the main plot, and the book is fairly action oriented..
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mary rosenblum
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think of mystery, most
SF/fantasy, etc.
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mary rosenblum
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When you get into mainstream
and romance, you see more internal plots.
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mary rosenblum
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Romance of course, is pretty
categorically internal for main plot in most imprints...
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mary rosenblum
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since it is the
love/loss/regained love that drives most romances.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me, Mary Rosenblum, LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer and today
we're talking about internal plot. If you're new here, remember that you
need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the
red question mark at the top of the screen, or use the ask a question icon
in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! You can
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gail
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One of my biggest difficulties
with internal conflict is how to "identify" it, or whether indeed
I should. A person usually doesn't give their "issues" names, so
how can we ensure the reader is picking up the "correct" issue?
:-)
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mary rosenblum
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Oh, people rarely give their
internal issues a name. Ask anyone what is the central flaw that cripples
their personality. Ha!
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mary rosenblum
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And you rarely if ever TELL
the reader what is going on...
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mary rosenblum
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but think about your friends.
How many of them have crippling (to some extent) flaws...
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mary rosenblum
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like a need to be perfect, a
terrible fear of failure, fear of success, fear of closeness, or what have
you?
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telcontar
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What makes it difficult to do
both internal and external plots in the same story?
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mary rosenblum
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It's not at all difficult,
telcontar, or it shouldn't be.
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mary rosenblum
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Every person that I've met so
far in my life has some kind of central flaw, myself included...
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mary rosenblum
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and if you have a hard time
finding one for your MC, maybe you just don't know him/her well enough yet.
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mary rosenblum
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When I first started writing,
I tended to find my character's flaw...the one that drove the internal
conflict...as I wrote the first few scenes...
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mary rosenblum
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and revised accordingly. Now I
know my characters MUCH better before I start.
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gail
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hott jonny ASKS: is it possible
to move to another area without the main character being present when
writing in the first person.
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mary rosenblum
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While anything is possible in
fiction, even that, it is VERY difficult to pull off jonny.
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mary rosenblum
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That is the limit on first
person POV...that character is telling the story. If he/she doesn't know
something, neither do we.
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mary rosenblum
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BUT...it has been done and CAN
be done...I've seen...
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mary rosenblum
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first person alternated with
cinematic POV for example... BUT...it is DARN difficult to do well.
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mary rosenblum
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You might want to rethink and
try third person.
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telcontar
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Then why do most stories focus
on one or the other?
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mary rosenblum
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Well, the stories contain both
internal and external plot, but one tends to be somewhat stronger than the
other...
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mary rosenblum
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and is the basis for
designating a story 'plot driven' (meaning the external conflict/resolution
is stronger)...
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mary rosenblum
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or character driven (meaning
the internal conflict/resolution is stronger).
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mary rosenblum
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They're both there, but rarely
are they precisely equal in strength.
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jr souza jr
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When we are thinking about
internal plots should we be thinking more beyond -- internal conflict and
internal struggle. SHould we make sure that this plot has a beginning
middle and end with conflict building/resolution etc?
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mary rosenblum
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Sure, souza. It's the same
sort of dramatic arc whether you're working with that external plot or
internal...
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mary rosenblum
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and they may resolve in the
same climax or separately.
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mary rosenblum
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In either case, you're going
to build to the climax of the arc and then resolve the conflict.
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wingedwarrior24
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Do short shorts have external
and internal plots?
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mary rosenblum
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Well, the really good ones do,
winged, but of course it's fairly hard to do...
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mary rosenblum
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like writing poetry, you spend
quite a bit of time creating layered meaning so that you can skimp on
actual words. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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And usually one or the other
is implied rather than unfolded in the short short.
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christopher dale
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Again, my novel :-P - One way I
do that is through reoccurring nightmares and the "feeling" that
the walls move with the ghosts of his family...
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mary rosenblum
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Another way to do it, Chris,
is to show him simply holding people he COULD care about at a distance.
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mary rosenblum
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"YOu can't get too close,
someone might kill you and I don't ever want to hurt that much again!"
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mary rosenblum
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And showing us, too, that the
price of that security is a deep loneliness even in the middle of a
company.
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mary rosenblum
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That shows the reader what is
going to cost him in the long run.
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butch
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Internal plot is what makes the
MC real, human?
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mary rosenblum
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It's a major part of it,
butch...I'd say the most important myself.
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mary rosenblum
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We are all aware of human
flaws ...our own and those of others, even if we can't name them
precisely...
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mary rosenblum
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and a character with no human
flaw is very cardboard. Think Conan the Mortgage Payment...er Barbarian...
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(That was an inside joke...a
friend of mine Steve Perry, used to write the Conan books and his 'titles'
were C the College Tuition...
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C the Mortgage Payment...'
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mary rosenblum
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But ol' Conan is a good
example.
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ling630
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Do you have to have both
internal and external plots to have a story?
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mary rosenblum
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You really need both an
internal and external plot in order to have a strong story, ling.
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mary rosenblum
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Certainly there are tons of
examples in published books of stories with cardboard characters, and
action/adventure plot, and not a lot of quality...
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mary rosenblum
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But a story essentially calls
for a change in your MC, and that internal plot is what changes and how.
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mary rosenblum
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A very internal plot...no
outside conflicts, no pressure...can be pretty dull, too.
Mainstream/literary fiction has plenty of examples there, too! :-)
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geezer
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Does it annoy the reader not to
resolve the internal plot. Just allow the other characters to deal with it?
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mary rosenblum
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Yeah, it tends to, geezer.
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mary rosenblum
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I think part of the reason for
that is, as I said, we are all aware that we have our own internal problems
that we may never solve...
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mary rosenblum
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and when a character we care
about resolves his/her problem...it makes us feel that hey, one of these
days...
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mary rosenblum
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And that's a good feeling to
most readers.
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mary rosenblum
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Now in some series, the MC's
internal conflict carries on from book to book...
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mary rosenblum
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and the author may intend to
finally resolve it when he/she writes the final book.
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babbles
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I've got all that, however, I
had a hard time deciding when to divulge some of that internal conflict--a
secret etc. then resolving without being to quick or obvious.
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mary rosenblum
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Well, your character should
slowly reveal that conflict through his/her actions, dialogue, and thought,
babbles.
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mary rosenblum
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As to resolution, most
internal conflicts resolve AT the climax (if it's the main plot it
certainly will!), shortly before the climax, or between the climax and the
end.
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mary rosenblum
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Although, as I mentioned, you
CAN carry a secondary internal conflict over in a series book as long as
your external conflict is the main conflict and IS resolved in book one.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me, Mary Rosenblum, LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer and today
we're talking about internal plot. If you're new here, remember that you
need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to
the red question mark at the top of the screen, or use the ask a question
icon in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me!
You can also type /ask in front of your question to reach me.
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gail
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If, say, internal conflict is
driving the story, with external conflict minimally affecting the plot,
should the external plot be climaxed before the internal (or whatever
driving conflict) is?
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mary rosenblum
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Before, during, or after,
gail...whatever works for that story.
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mary rosenblum
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BUT...I would be careful about
resolving the secondary conflict whether it's internal OR external too
soon.
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mary rosenblum
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Some readers will be more
involved with one or the other no matter which one YOU think is stronger...
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mary rosenblum
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and if you resolve one say,
halfway through the novel...
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mary rosenblum
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the readers who were really
involved with that conflict may drop out.
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mary rosenblum
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It also leaves the second half
of your book with only a single conflict...and both internal/external is
much stronger.
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t green
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in a short, which plot usually
stands out more? internal or external? is there a stronger conflict to use
in the short? one that "works" better than the other?
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mary rosenblum
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Oh, gosh, t, read a hundred
short stories and you'll find examples of both!
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mary rosenblum
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I do feel that one benefit of
using the internal conflict as your main conflict in short stories...
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mary rosenblum
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is that it focuses the story
on a much narrower landscape...the MC...and you don't have to try...
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mary rosenblum
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and cram a sweeping action
plot into 3000 words.
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bengalrose
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I'm working on a story in which
the MC's job is to travel to foreign sites and train people for jobs that
are being outsourced. His internal conflict is that he knows that his
coworkers are losing their jobs as a direct result of his actions. But he
also knows that he is able to keep working for the company and feed his
family by doing what he does. A main external conflict comes from a
coworker travelling with the MC who is helping with thetraining, but whos
job ends when his replacements are trained.
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mary rosenblum
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That sounds fine. To me,
sounds as if your internal plot is your main plot.
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ling630
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I wrote a story on a health
problem. The main plot was getting the girl to the doctor to make sure we
knew what it was. But the secondary plot was that the father didn't believe
her. And yet at the same time there was another problem happening at the
same time. How do you know which plot to give preference to?
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mary rosenblum
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Well, ling, YOU have to
decide, maybe even as you write the first draft...which story is the
strongest.
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mary rosenblum
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Which conflict/resolution
matters more to your MC?
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mary rosenblum
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Look at bengal's example. We
have the internal conflict of the MC's ethic's issue.
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mary rosenblum
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And the external conflict of a
co worker who is maybe sabotaging the job or what have you.
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mary rosenblum
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Which one has the greater
impact? From bengal's description, it sounds as if the MC's decision on his
ethical stand carries more weight...
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mary rosenblum
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although you could reverse
that if the co worker is, say, trying to murder our MC. :-)
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wingedwarrior24
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can you use a MC that already
solved an internal problem and use the same MC in a different story with a
different internal conflict?
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mary rosenblum
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Sure, winged. Look at the many
mystery series with beloved MCs.
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mary rosenblum
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Some of them are external plot
stories only...but the good ones..
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mary rosenblum
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tend to give the MC something
to work through each time...
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mary rosenblum
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and sometimes it's a flaw that
never really DOES get resolved.
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mary rosenblum
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Mystery does tend to use
external plot as the main plot most of the time if not always.
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mary rosenblum
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And a MC's flaw...a obsessive
sense of justice, for example, my set him/her in harm's way again and
again.
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babbles
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my MC is dealing with the sudden
death of her mother does that constitute external plot?
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mary rosenblum
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That could be both, babbles.
Nice example of that, too.
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mary rosenblum
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She could be dealing with
grabby family members who contest the will, all the wearing details of
handling the estate (all external) and...
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mary rosenblum
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her own problem associated
with her mother's death (internal conflict), such as facing her need to
please her demanding mother that has driven her all her life.
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geezer
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Sometimes a facet of the
personality that is a problem in one setting is a strength in another.
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mary rosenblum
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Absolutely...look at some of
our mystery MCs...
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gail
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In limited 3rd POV, is it okay
to allow internal conflict within the other characters (so long as it's
viewed from the POV's standpoint?)
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mary rosenblum
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Your POV character is not
always your main character, gail, although it usually is.
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mary rosenblum
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Look at Scout in To Kill a
Mockingbird. She is the POV. She is not the main character.
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mary rosenblum
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The hard part with focusing on
the internal conflict of characters other than your POV is that readers
tend to engage with the POV...
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mary rosenblum
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so you have to work extra hard
to make them care more about the non POV main character whose internal
conflict matters...
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mary rosenblum
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and if your other characters
are more interesting than your POV, they are going to become your main
characters, like it or not.
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butch
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Can a MC solve external conflict
and only in part interanlly
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mary rosenblum
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Sure. And this is what you see
in many series...but it works best if the external plot is the main plot...
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mary rosenblum
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readers DO like to see the
main plot wrapped up in THIS story, thank you very much.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me, Mary Rosenblum, LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer and today
we're talking about internal plot. If you're new here, remember that you
need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to
the red question mark at the top of the screen, or use the ask a question
icon in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me!
You can also type /ask in front of your question to reach me.
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wingedwarrior24
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an overweight woman dwells on
her weight. Finds someone to love and no longer cares. Internal
conflict/resolution?
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mary rosenblum
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Sounds like it to me, winged.
And this might be a story where the internal plot is the main plot.
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pook
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can you give some examples from
lit of external and internal plots?
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mary rosenblum
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well, let's see if I can find
an example that EVERYBODY or nearly has read!
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mary rosenblum
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Hmmm...okay, let's try Harry
Potter...probably most of you have read it or seen the movie.
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mary rosenblum
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The internal conflict...book
one we're talking...is HP's need to matter. He doesn't matter to much of
anyone at the start of the book...
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mary rosenblum
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and of course, by the end,
he's a star.
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bengalrose
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Good book...i'm reading it now,
in fact...would you say that Atticus is the MC?
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mary rosenblum
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My feeling is that it's her
brother. It's kind of a coming of age story, told through her eyes.
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gail
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The Wizard of Oz has plenty of
external and internal conflicts ...
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mary rosenblum
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Yes, it does. Dorothy's of
course, is her longing for something other than the gray of Kansas...
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mary rosenblum
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and her final realization that
Oz lies within her world.
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mary rosenblum
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And external plot I'm sure you
all know. :-)
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gail
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I can't count the times in my
life when an "issue" I thought I'd put to rest rears its ugly
head again. Is this possible to do with characters, or should their (int.)
conflict resolution be more binding?
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mary rosenblum
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Oh, the more you mimic reality
the more real your story, gail...
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mary rosenblum
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and in the series characters,
many of them deal with the same issues in new forms over and over...
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hott jonny
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im writing a story where my
character has to help free a young man who was in the wrong place at the
wrong time , but is developing deep feelings for a witness , which is a
wonderful story in it self , I don't want the reader to get too deep into
his personal life and lose focus on why he is in the story in the first
place , but him and her are made for each other , how can I get him to
focus on the main story when the readers might want to know more about him
and her?
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mary rosenblum
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You simply have to make your
main story stronger and more interesting, jonny.
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mary rosenblum
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I'm assuming he's either an
attorney or PI? Give the external story enough conflicts and action...
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mary rosenblum
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to keep the readers focused on
what will complicate matters next, and show that developing attraction in
brief, vivid glimpses.
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mary rosenblum
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Let the readers imply the
rest. That's one way to do it.
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bengalrose
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Hmmm. Good point. Jem probably
is the MC.
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mary rosenblum
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Jem...I knew I had the wrong
name!
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mary rosenblum
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LOL. Time for me to read it
again, obviously.
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babbles
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She has to deal with organ
donation as her mother left strict instructions.
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babbles
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My heroine and hero both have
internal conlicts, however, the conflict connects them to each other in a
surprising way.
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mary rosenblum
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That has the feel of a nice
romance plot, babbles. :-)
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jr souza jr
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Mary this is likely not
appropriate for this forum but I wanted to send/ask about an idea generated
ny a comment you made earlier. You mentioned Steve Perry who writes the
Conan stories but yet the writer/creator of Conan was RE Howard. I am
assuming but don't know anything about this but has the character becom
public domain of sorts and is the story created by Howard foder for all?
This brought me tothinking about writing for series characters that are
open to other writer. How would one go about this, is it open to all who
are some of these characters, etc. Just thought it might make an
interesting forum topic. Sorry for the length of this but that's why I
saved it for near end of this meeting
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mary rosenblum
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Actually, souza, this is a
very good question, and I apologize...I should have explained why Steve was
writing Howard's books, LOL.
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mary rosenblum
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Howard has been dead for many
years, but the series was of course, owned by his estate...
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mary rosenblum
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and the books earned lots of
money. So the publisher hired authors to write Conan books as 'work for
hire' under Howard's name. Nancy Drew and The Hardy Boys both were written
that way...
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mary rosenblum
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Dixon, the author of the Hardy
Boys only wrote a percentage of the eventual series. The rest are works for
hire.
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mary rosenblum
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It's a way for pro writers to
earn money. You get paid a flat fee...the equivalent of a decent advance
for a similar novel...
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mary rosenblum
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but you have NO rights to the
prose and you receive no royalties, most of the time.
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mary rosenblum
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And no, Conan is not at all in
the public domaine!
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babbles
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at my conference last year,
Donald Maass said to always ask yourself--What would make this
(scene,action) matter more? to the reader and MC and also ask--What would
make it worse?
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mary rosenblum
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Yep, that's not only a good
thing to ask yourself scene by scene, but it's a good thing to ask yourself
of the story as a whole.
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tory
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WORK FOR HIRE? You don't get to
use yourown name?
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mary rosenblum
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Nope. In work for hire you are
selling your words, you are not licensing their use, as in regular
publication.
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mary rosenblum
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Some novelizations of
movies...where the screenplay came first...are work for hire. Most of them,
if not all, I think.
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mary rosenblum
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They pay is good...but you
won't showcase your name.
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jr souza jr
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But Steve Perry's name does
appear on the Conan novles and the Netforce Novels he was invloved in
writing?
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mary rosenblum
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Netforce may be a work for
hire series where the author's name appears on the cover...my friend Mike
Moscoe writes 'Mech Warriors' books that way..
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mary rosenblum
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I don't know if Perry's name
is on the Conan books..I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
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mary rosenblum
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Certainly on Nancy Drew and
the Hardy Boys, the author's name isn't in the book anywhere.
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writermom
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what about the Star Wars series
of books that came out after the first set of movies the authors name was
on each of them
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mary rosenblum
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Oh yes, several of my sf
friends write Star Wars books...
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mary rosenblum
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the author's name is on the
book, but in these cases, it is the SERIES that lures readers, not the
author.
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mary rosenblum
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And no single author wrote the
series...they were written by many people from the get-go.
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gskearney
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Can you use 'work for hire' as
publication credit and cite sales? --gk
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mary rosenblum
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Sure! People who write Star
Wars books and the like trumpet those sales. :-) Heck, every Star Wars book
makes the NYTimes best seller list!
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mary rosenblum
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If the series is
crummy...maybe not...but if you're otherwise unpublished...
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mary rosenblum
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it tells an agent or editor
that you can write publishable prose and turn a book in on deadline.
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gail
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Having read nearly every Nancy
Drew ever published (once upon a time) I can honestly say that keeping the
author's name off the cover is not fooling anyone -- the different
"voices" are obvious. So, why do publishers use "work for
hire" in this manner? It seems pointless to me...???
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mary rosenblum
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Gail for every perceptive
reader like you, there are the millions who will buy the next Howard or
Nancy Drew book because of that name.
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t green
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how does one go about asking for
that kind of work for hire?
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tolkienlvr
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How do writers get involved in
writing works for hire like that?
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mary rosenblum
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This is yet ANOTHER reason to
go to writers conferences and start networking.
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mary rosenblum
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Sometimes they are
advertised...
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mary rosenblum
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a few years
back..lessee...Harper? Can't remember which publisher bought the ND and HB
series...
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mary rosenblum
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but the publisher did
advertise for writers for their new paperbacks in the series...
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mary rosenblum
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but mostly, you meet editors
at conferences, or they read your work, and they tell you that they are
editing...
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mary rosenblum
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the new xxxx series and would
you like to write one for it.
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mary rosenblum
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The publicly advertised series
will show up in the market reports of the appropriate trade journal and
some writers market lists.
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mary rosenblum
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By trade journal, I mean the
magazine read by pros in that genre:
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mary rosenblum
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Locus for SF, Romantic Times
for Romance...
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jr souza jr
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I checked again Mary and Steve's
name is on the conan, Netforce, starwars covers along with other writers if
co-written
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mary rosenblum
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I knew he was on the netforce
and star wars covers, souza... :-) All authors names are on there... Wasn't
sure about Conan.
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mary rosenblum
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Haven't read a Conan book
since I was about 12.
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writermom
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is Locus also for fantasy
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mary rosenblum
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Yes, writermom, and features
some horror news but not a lot.
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gail
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This must sound horribly
"out of the loop" but are you saying that Nancy Drew Mysteries
are still being written today?
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mary rosenblum
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They were about six years ago,
gail. The publisher that bought them started two new paperback
series...Hardy Boys Case Files and ...I forget the new ND titles...
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mary rosenblum
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and they featured very
contemporary action plots with very contemporary settings/characters. BIG
departure, believe me.
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mary rosenblum
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Don't know if they're still
being published...check amazon.com
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babbles
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Thanks Mary, now do you know of
a good critique service? :)
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mary rosenblum
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Yes, talk a look around you in
the auditorium, babbles. :-)
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bengalrose
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I generally am not a fan of book
series based on TV or movies, but the Timothy Zahn novels in the Star Wars
universe were actually quite good.
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mary rosenblum
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Some of these series books are
written by quite good pro writers, bengal. Timothy has written a number of
action-oriented SF novels on his own.
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mary rosenblum
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So have many other of the Star
Wars authors.
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tory
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Mary, WAY off topic here...I'm
attending a big writers conference this week and will have appts. to meet
with 2 editors. My question is--since it is 4 days and shared meals--is it
"proper" to pitch stories/book ideas/ at times outside
appointments to other editors? Or do they want boundaries around ptich
times? Obviously--this is a first for me. Thanks.
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mary rosenblum
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I'ts a matter of judgement,
tory. NOTHING ticks an editor off more than to be cornered by a novice
waving a ms...
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mary rosenblum
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or dying to tell Ms Editor
about his/her new book.
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mary rosenblum
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BUT...that said, it's just
fine to buy an editor lunch, talk about whatever, ask what that editor is
looking for...
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mary rosenblum
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and if your book seems to fit,
mention...BRIEFLY, like in THREE sentences...
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mary rosenblum
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what it's about and ask if
it's something that editor might be interested in.
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mary rosenblum
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Be gracious if she says no,
but if she says YES, it is no longer an unsolicited ms, and you can send it
directly to her at the publisher...
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mary rosenblum
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even if they don't take
unagented ms, reminding her that she said she'd like to see it.
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mary rosenblum
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So the key here is schmooz, be
pleasant and conversational, and make the most of any opportunity to slip
your novel into the conversation. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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THAT is how you get around the
'agent first' barrier.
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mary rosenblum
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But do NOT grab that editor as
she hurries off to a delayed lunch and launch into a pitch. The no may take
your head off. :-)
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gail
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Thank you, Mary. I will
definitely check up on the new ND Mystery possibility -- she was solely
responsible for my (early) love of mysteries so I'd love to return the
favour. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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Do check 'me out, gail. The
new series was much more cosmopolitan, but for awhile they were soliciting
new writers. They may still be.
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mary rosenblum
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Hmmm, gail, Aladdin is the
listed publisher of the Nancy Drew Girl Detective series...
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mary rosenblum
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that's probably an imprint of
one of the big houses..I don't remember who bought the rights to ND and
HB>
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mary rosenblum
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up...found it!
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mary rosenblum
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Simon and Schuster.
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butch
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Didn't Robert Jordan write a
Conan novel using his name?
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mary rosenblum
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Many sf writers have done
conan books, butch..
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mary rosenblum
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Just as many have done Star
Wars, Star Trek, and the other series universes.
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mary rosenblum
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The main thing to remember
with internal plot...
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mary rosenblum
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is that it is a conflict that
arises from within the main character..
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mary rosenblum
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and needs to be resolved in
order for that character to succeed in life.
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mary rosenblum
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It does not have to be life
and death, but if it is not resolved...
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mary rosenblum
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that character will be less
happy, less succesful, more likely to die young..whatever.
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mary rosenblum
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And either the external or
internal plot tends to be the main plot, and that is the big difference
between 'character driven' and 'plot driven' fiction.
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mary rosenblum
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I hope you all have a good
week!
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mary rosenblum
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Do drop in tomorrow morning
for our open chat...
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mary rosenblum
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same time, same place, usually
here in the auditorium..
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mary rosenblum
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it's just a chance to get
together and visit.
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bengalrose
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Another Oregon hour
gone....*sign
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mary rosenblum
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yep!
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mary rosenblum
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Take care, all. I'll post the
transcript in Writing Craft: Forum Transcripts.
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mary rosenblum
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Bye all!
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