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mary rosenblum
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Hello all!
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mary rosenblum
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I hope you've had a good week!
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mary rosenblum
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This is our After Hours Forum,
with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor. I've published seven novels and
more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you
have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a
Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top
of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't
reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send
bar if that works better for you..
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mary rosenblum
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We're doing our After Hours
early this week, because I'll be appearing on panels...
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mary rosenblum
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at a local writers conference
all weekend, starting tomorrow afternoon.
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mary rosenblum
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And I'm doing a section of
their writers workshop...which sparked this particular topic.
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mary rosenblum
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I have several submissions of
novel first chapters and a synopsis.
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mary rosenblum
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And the synopses are so
totally inappropriate for submission to an agent or editor...
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mary rosenblum
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that I thought I had better
address this topic.
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mary rosenblum
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And...just as a personal bit
of PR...
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mary rosenblum
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I'm announcing that my website
is finally up and active, if not entirely complete yet.
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mary rosenblum
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it's at www.maryrosenblum.com
and please do visit. I keep the schedule updated and there will be quite a
bit more there, soon.
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deb1234
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Please share your URL and...did
you sell your novel yet?
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mary rosenblum
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you can just type
www.maryrosenblum.com into your browser deb.,
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mary rosenblum
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My SF novel is out for bid at
TWO publishers...they both have it and they each know the other has it so
wish me luck!
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wolf122
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I've seen the site--it looks
great so far! I love the colorful background you chose.
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mary rosenblum
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Thanks, Wolf! That's the cover
of my hardcover collection of short fiction...
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mary rosenblum
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It's a Bob Eggleston
painting...he's one of the top illustrators in the field.
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mary rosenblum
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This is our After Hours Forum,
with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor. I've published seven novels and
more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you
have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question'
button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the
screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me!
Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if
that works better for you..
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mary rosenblum
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So let's talk about the
synopsis.
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mary rosenblum
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This is what you are going to
send to your prospective agent or editor along with probably three
chapters.
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mary rosenblum
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If they don't specify the
number in the guidelines, three is pretty standard.
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mary rosenblum
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And yes, you usually want the
first three.
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mary rosenblum
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If you find yourself
saying...'but the really good part is in chapter four...
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mary rosenblum
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then maybe you need to think
about starting with chapter four and using flashback and other techniques
to fill in those first three chapters worth of information.
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mary rosenblum
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What does your synopsis do?
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mary rosenblum
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Well, if the editor likes your
first three chapters, thinks you write well, the characterization is strong
and you've hooked your reader...
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mary rosenblum
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he/she wants to know if you've
written a novel that will interest readers.
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mary rosenblum
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Is it a Harry Potter or
Tolkien clone?
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mary rosenblum
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Is it trite? Is it monotonous
with no dramatic arc to speak of?
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mary rosenblum
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Does it reach a powerful
climax and an exciting resolution?
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mary rosenblum
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Will the ending satisfy the
readers?
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mary rosenblum
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Is it too long for the number
of pages the publisher will accept?
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mary rosenblum
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Is it too thin a plot?
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mary rosenblum
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These are all questions that
your editor or agent wants to answer as he/she reads your synopsis.
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mary rosenblum
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And of course, you want to
hold that editor or agent's attention...
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mary rosenblum
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so when the secretary calls on
the intercom to say a client is on the phone..
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mary rosenblum
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that agent/editor tells her to
put that person on hold or call back later.
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mary rosenblum
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So you want to write it in
such a way that the synopsis itself is an exciting read.
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mary rosenblum
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You REALLY need to work on
your synopsis.
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mary rosenblum
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It WILL sell your novel...or
not.
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mary rosenblum
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Now I can write a sloppier
synopsis than you can.
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mary rosenblum
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My editor can look at the
books I've published and my award history...she can say..
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mary rosenblum
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okay, she knows what she's
doing, this has some holes in it but she can fill them in....
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mary rosenblum
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But that editor doesn't know
you, the unpublished novelist (and no, short stories don't count...BIG gap
in technique there).
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mary rosenblum
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So if she sees holes in a
first novelist's synopsis and it's not something she thinks marketing will
jump for...
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mary rosenblum
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she'll reject it.
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mary rosenblum
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And maybe the holes aren't
really holes, you just dashed off this synopsis.
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mary rosenblum
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Remember. The editor/agent has
a stack of submissions that could choke a very hungry elephant.
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mary rosenblum
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If yours isn't great, there
are at least five in that huge pile that ARE.
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mary rosenblum
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So give your synopsis to
readers...quizz 'em after. What is the book about? If they don't get all
that should be there, work on it some more.
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mary rosenblum
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So just what IS a synopsis and
how do you format it?
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mary rosenblum
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Well, read book jacket blurbs
for awhile.
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mary rosenblum
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Really.
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mary rosenblum
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Go to your local bookstore,
grab some paperbacks from the rack in your genre and read.
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mary rosenblum
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Usually there is a paragraph
on the back that sort of 'teases' the reader...
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mary rosenblum
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This is the tone you want in
your synopsis...sort of like a movie trailer.
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mary rosenblum
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This is not your working
outline or a chapter summary to help you through the first draft.
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mary rosenblum
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This is a 'trailer' designed
to interest that agent and editor.
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mary rosenblum
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Practice a lot.
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mary rosenblum
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Every time you read a story,
write a blurb for it.
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mary rosenblum
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Every time you write a story,
write a blurb for it.
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mary rosenblum
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That's an exercise I give my
workshop participants when I do a writers workshop.
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mary rosenblum
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You use PRESENT tense, even if
your novel is in past, which is most likely is.
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mary rosenblum
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You write with that excited,
'Hollywood' voice.
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mary rosenblum
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You don't EVER backtrack.
Start with the first plot event and move forward only. No 'Oh yes, and back
when...' type insertions.
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happybunny
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Mary, those paragraphs on the
back of the book don't tell readers how the book ends. But we are supposed
to do so in our synopsis to an editor or agent, is that right?
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mary rosenblum
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Well, you are not doing a
blurb, you are doing a synopsis, happy.
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mary rosenblum
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The blurb IS a teaser.
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mary rosenblum
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And while you want that TONE
of that blurb, you must include the entire plot for the editor/agent and of
course the ending.
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mary rosenblum
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They have to know what the
entire dramatic arc looks like and know that you can indeed end a novel.
Many wannabes can't!
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mary rosenblum
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A blurb is just a couple of
paragraphs. You are going to write up to five pages...
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mary rosenblum
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more if you have a very
complex plot, but no more than ten and less is better.
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mary rosenblum
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Now I"m talking single
space here, not doublt.
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mary rosenblum
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You don't have to use
manuscript format. The editor isn't going to edit this...just read it.
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mary rosenblum
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Use letter format...skip a
line between paragraphs to make it easier to read...
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mary rosenblum
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Use present tense, a lot of
energy.
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mary rosenblum
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Skip the small details. Stick
to the plot high points and the key events of your subplots.
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mary rosenblum
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Remember that if your editor
or agent's attention wanders, you'll probably get the rejection slip so
work at keeping the reader glued to the page.
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mary rosenblum
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Start with a strong hook
opening.
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When Saul D'Artagnan, fraud
expert and Olympic fencer discovers the body of his friend and client, all
h#ll breaks loose...
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happybunny
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A couple of markets that I have
been looking at in "Writer's Market" say to submit a one page
synopsis and the first three chapters. Do different editors want different
lengths or is there a standard length for a synopsis?
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mary rosenblum
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They often want different
lengths, happy.
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mary rosenblum
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If they ask for a specific
length in the guidelines, use it.
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mary rosenblum
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If there is no stated length,
try for five pages max. If the plot sounds good and you write strongly and
succintly, the editor or agent will ask to see the entire ms.
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mary rosenblum
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A one page synopsis is
basically a request for the core plot idea.
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mary rosenblum
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You can't go into subplots or
tell us about more than your main character or caharacters.
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mary rosenblum
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If they don't specify the
number of chapters to send, send the first three.
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mary rosenblum
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You won't get rejected if your
synopsis is a bit longer than the specified length, generally...but a 20
page synopsis when they asked for three sure will.
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mary rosenblum
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Get you rejected, that is. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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It often helps to sit down and
list your major plot points before you start...
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mary rosenblum
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rather than writing off the
cuff.
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speckledorf
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When writing a synopsis, is
going chapter by chapter hitting the highlights a good idea?
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mary rosenblum
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No, it's not, speck.
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mary rosenblum
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That is a BORING read.
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mary rosenblum
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Not every chapter will have an
equally steep dramatic arc.
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mary rosenblum
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You are much better off to go
from plot point to plot point, skipping whole sections if nothing much
happens...
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mary rosenblum
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other than character
interactions or subplot activities.
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mary rosenblum
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You want something that reads
like that bookjacket blurb..
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mary rosenblum
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an integrated whole, not a
laundry list.
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mary rosenblum
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What you want is a
story...told and not shown...that makes the editor want to read it in
detail.
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mary rosenblum
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You are answering the
question: What is your novel about?
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mary rosenblum
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Only when you ask writers this
in real life...
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mary rosenblum
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all too often you get this
meandering account of this, then that, then, oh yes, I forgot...this...
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mary rosenblum
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Don't do that.
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mary rosenblum
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Start with the hook. Now what
happens to our main characters? Then what? Now what do they face? How do
they escape and what happens next?
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mary rosenblum
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This is the kind of
progression you have...
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mary rosenblum
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and leave the back story to a
minimum!
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mary rosenblum
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Remember...your editor can
read all about that in the complete ms.
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mary rosenblum
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Just include enough that the
main plot makes sense.
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mary rosenblum
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If the information isn't vital
to understanding that main plot, leave it out.
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stina
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what if you're weaving together
multiple plot lines?
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mary rosenblum
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Then you have to skip back and
forth between them...and remember, stina...
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mary rosenblum
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too many main plot lines
weakens your whole story.
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mary rosenblum
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two is pretty reasonable. More
than two and it is VERY difficult to engage the reader with them.
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mary rosenblum
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You just alternate with your
description of what is going on.
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mary rosenblum
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Brand storms the castle with
his rag-tag bunch of rebels. Meanwhile, Serai is lost in the Sea Caves,
searching desperately for the Jewel of Knowlege. She finds it between the
feet...
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mary rosenblum
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of a sea dragon and because of
her kinship to sky dragons...
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is able to talk the sea dragon
into lending it to her. It even carries her back to the castle's shore...
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mary rosenblum
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but when she arrives, she
finds the castle still unbreached and the fields strewn with dead rebels. A
dying rebel tells her that Brand has been captured...
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mary rosenblum
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then you go to what is
happening to Brand...
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mary rosenblum
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This is our After Hours Forum,
with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor. I've published seven novels and
more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you
have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a
Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the
top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't
reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send
bar if that works better for you..
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speckledorf
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How much info on our characters
do we include?
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mary rosenblum
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Just enough to make that
character interesting to the editor...
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mary rosenblum
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he/she can read more later!
:-) Pick out the characteristics that make your character unique...
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mary rosenblum
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and interesting to the reader.
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mary rosenblum
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He's an Olympic fencer. She's
a lion tamer. Whatever.
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roe
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Mary,Is the synopsis the same as
what f a proposal would be for non fiction
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mary rosenblum
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Not at all, roe.
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mary rosenblum
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Not at all, roe.
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mary rosenblum
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Fiction and nonfiction
proposals/synopses are not at all alike.
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mary rosenblum
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Really and truely I am not an
expert on NF book length proposals.
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mary rosenblum
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I've never done one, but they
are much more formal and content oriented, including proposed index and the
like.
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stina
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is this a seperate document from
the query letter?
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mary rosenblum
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Absolutely, Stina.
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mary rosenblum
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Your query letter tells the
editor what credits you have...published work, expertise that bears on this
particular novel...
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mary rosenblum
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and tells that editor/agent
that the synopsis and chapters are enclosed.
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mary rosenblum
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Now if the guidelines say
query first, as opposed to query with synopsis and chapters...
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mary rosenblum
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then you simply shorten your
synopsis to that one or two paragraph bookjacket blurb...
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mary rosenblum
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and include that.
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happybunny
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Mary, could you give us a brief
example? Maybe for something that everyone knows, like "The Wizard of
Oz?"
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mary rosenblum
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Yes, let's do the query letter
version.
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mary rosenblum
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I'm not going to attempt five
pages here!
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mary rosenblum
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But I'll post an article on
the synopsis later with a real example.
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mary rosenblum
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We're querying an agent about
this cool new novel we've written.
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mary rosenblum
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Trapped in the gray, dusty
plains of Kansas, Dorothy longs for a colorful world beyond th rainbow. But
when she has to run away to save her beloved dog, she is snatched up by a
tornado and whisked away to that magical land beyond the rainbow.
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mary rosenblum
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There, persecuted and pursued
by an evil witch, she meets a host of wonderful and strange new friends,
who help her on her way to the magical city of Oz.
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mary rosenblum
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Surely the Great Wizard will
send her home to Aunty Em! But when he sends her off to confront the evil
witch, all seems lost. Dorothy is captured and her friends are driven off.
But through their courage and deep bond of friendship...
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mary rosenblum
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they triumph over the evil
witch and return successful to Oz.
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mary rosenblum
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There, Dorothy discovers that
she alone has the ability to return home and does so, filled with a deep
new..
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mary rosenblum
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appreciation for the family
who loves her.
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mary rosenblum
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That's pretty rough, but
that's the idea.
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mary rosenblum
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I'd probably slip in a few
really vivid details, but it wouldn't be much longer for a query.
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mary rosenblum
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For a synopsis...
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mary rosenblum
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say five pages...
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mary rosenblum
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I'd hit the high points of
Dorothy's journey...her meeting with the tin man, the lion, the scarecrow
and a few of their adventures more specifically.
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info
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so you would pretty much want to
leave out the little details like her friends being a lion, scarecrow,
tinman and so on. Right
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mary rosenblum
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Probably...for the query.
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mary rosenblum
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You only have a page for a
query letter, so it is really the story idea rather than the story as a
whole.
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mary rosenblum
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They'd go into the synopsis
though.
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happybunny
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Thanks! That was great. So it is
not necessary to say HOW she killed the witch or HOW she got back home,
only that she was able to do both??
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mary rosenblum
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Right. Even in the synopsis
you probably wouldn't bother to tell us how she killed the witch..
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mary rosenblum
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don't forget you covering a
whole novel in five pages!
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mary rosenblum
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You pick out the details that
are most interesting and most necessary to understanding how the story will
work.
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jac
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It's the very abridged version
as opposed to a description?
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mary rosenblum
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Yes...the synopsis is the
'abridged' version of the novel, all tell don't show...
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mary rosenblum
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and the query is the abridged
version of the synopsis, hitting only the very central main plot points.
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mary rosenblum
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This is our After Hours Forum,
with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor. I've published seven novels and
more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you
have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a
Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the
top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't
reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send
bar if that works better for you..
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roe
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I guess what I meant was does it
take the place of a proposal or do we have to write a separate proposal
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mary rosenblum
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Semantics are confusing, roe.
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mary rosenblum
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In fiction, a 'proposal' is
what I just demonstrated for the query letter...
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mary rosenblum
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that's what that is... a
proposal.
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mary rosenblum
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I can write this story -- no
details yet.
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mary rosenblum
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In nonfiction, a proposal is
more complete...like a synopsis in fiction.
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mary rosenblum
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Confused yet?
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mary rosenblum
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As an unpublished novelist,
don't worry about proposals.
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mary rosenblum
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You are going to have to sell
the complete novel.
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mary rosenblum
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Because an editor has NO proof
that you can finish a novel...
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mary rosenblum
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so will wait until you do to
offer on it.
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mary rosenblum
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Once you have proven your
ability to finish a novel on deadline...
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mary rosenblum
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you can sell a proposal.
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mary rosenblum
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When I sold my mysteries, all
four of them were purchased as proposals only.
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mary rosenblum
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I wrote the actual novel after
I had sold it.
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speckledorf
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Okay....do I need a proposal for
fiction or do I just query?
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mary rosenblum
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Unless the guidelines prohibit
you from sending more than a query letter, speck, I would send the
agent/editor the synopsis and three chapters.
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mary rosenblum
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You are more likely to catch
that person's attention.
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mary rosenblum
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This is our After Hours Forum,
with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor. I've published seven novels and
more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you
have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a
Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top
of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't
reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send
bar if that works better for you..
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stina
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so... for the longer example,
could you do "a game of thrones" by g.r.r. martin? :)
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mary rosenblum
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I can't really do a five page
example here, stina. :-) I'll post an example online.
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speckledorf
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If the guidelines say either
query or send synopsis and sample chapters, which I send? Does one have an
advantage over the other?
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mary rosenblum
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Absolutely. Send the synopsis
and chapters.
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mary rosenblum
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Very few people do better at a
query than they do with the actual writing.
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mary rosenblum
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If your query isn't all that
hot, you'll get a rejection.
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mary rosenblum
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But if your editor starts
reading page one and is hooked...
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mary rosenblum
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you might sell that book even
if your query would not have done so.
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gail
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A synopsis is to fiction novels
as a proposal is to non-fiction. Am I understanding this correctly?
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mary rosenblum
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Relatively speaking, gail. But
they are very different in form.
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happybunny
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If I send a synopsis and three
chapters, is it best to keep the cover letter to a minimum? Just give
genre, word count, brief bio, and say that a synopsis and three chapters
are enclosed?
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mary rosenblum
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That's really all you need,
happy. The synopsis and chapters will sell themselves.
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mary rosenblum
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And don't overlook your own
expertise.
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mary rosenblum
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If you're sending in a mystery
set in a zoo and you were a zoo keeper for years, SAY so!
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mary rosenblum
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That makes the marketing
department prick up their ears.
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wolf122
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How different should the hook
for the synopsis be compared to the hook for the book?
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mary rosenblum
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Well, it should be stronger
than most novel openings, wolf.
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mary rosenblum
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Novels often start with what I
call a 'baseline' rather than leaping into the middle of events as short
stories tend to do.
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mary rosenblum
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It's perfectly fine in novels
to begin before your plot actually starts and sort of set up the world and
the main characters...
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mary rosenblum
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just make it interesting.
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mary rosenblum
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So if you have done this,
start wiht the first dramatic plot hook.
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mary rosenblum
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If you satr
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mary rosenblum
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If you start with a bang, then
go ahead and use your start.
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mary rosenblum
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For a mystery, you might start
with the murder.
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mary rosenblum
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When Sarah Goldman discovers
the body of the mayor in her trailer, the nightmare begins...
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mary rosenblum
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And in the book, she might not
find that body until the last paragraph of chapter one.
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mary rosenblum
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But that is the plot hook, so
we'll use it to begin the synopsis.
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mary rosenblum
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What I see most often in
novice synopses...
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mary rosenblum
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is the writer's effort to get
all the details in. And thus we lose any sense of drama...it drowns in a
sea of details.
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mary rosenblum
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We don't need to know
everything...just the basic points of the dramatic arc.
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happybunny
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In a nonfiction proposal the
editors usually want things like how does your book compare to others on
the market and a statement about why you think this book will appeal to
your target audience. Are things like this ever included in a fiction
synopsis, query, or cover letter?
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mary rosenblum
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Oh by all means do that if
you've got some strong comparisons.
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mary rosenblum
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It's not necessary, but if
you're a novice, anything you can say to increase someone's interest in
your book is good.
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mary rosenblum
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Dinosaur Summer picks up where
Jurassic Park left off...
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mary rosenblum
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and go on to explain why
Dinosaur summer will do the Jurassic Park thing even better. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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Now I'm not suggesting that
you would use the world of Jurassic Park for your Dinosaur Summer book...
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mary rosenblum
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but that book would do
something that worked well for Jurassic Park and do it better.
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mary rosenblum
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Do realize that all characters
and worlds created by other writers are closed to you unless you obtain
written permission.
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mary rosenblum
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Even posting 'fan fic' on the
internet can get you in trouble.
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mary rosenblum
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I know a few fans who have
collected 'cease and desist' letters from lawyers for posting fiction set
in an author's world...
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mary rosenblum
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although most authors I know
really don't mind it. :-)
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stina
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will putting in a tiny plot
synopsis in the query letter be necessary if you're sending a synopsis?
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mary rosenblum
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Nope. It's right there in
front of the editor or agent, stina. Smack under that letter he's reading.
:-)
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mary rosenblum
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He's going to look at it at
least and if you grab him with your first paragraph...
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mary rosenblum
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she'll keep reading.
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happybunny
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All characters are off limits? Surely
not typical things like dwarves or fairies? Do you mean named characters
only?
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mary rosenblum
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Yes, named characters only,
unless they are unique to that author's world, happy.
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happybunny
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So no ents, then :-)
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mary rosenblum
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that's right. :-) Elves are
fine, Ents are not.
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mary rosenblum
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Niether are Hobbits.
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stina
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or tribbles. :)
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mary rosenblum
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Yep.
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stina
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thanks. this has been extremely
helpful.
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mary rosenblum
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The main things to remember
are:
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1: You don't need to tell the
editor everything!
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2. You DO need to tell the
whole plot.
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mary rosenblum
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3: (and most important) Make
it exciting to read!
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mary rosenblum
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And that's it. If the agent or
editor reads it, then picks up your chapters and reads them all the way
through...
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mary rosenblum
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you'll get a letter asking for
the ms.
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mary rosenblum
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It is NOT a guarantee of
purchase, but it does mean that he/she thinks it's potentially saleable.
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mary rosenblum
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Five pages unless the count is
specified!
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mary rosenblum
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If you moan to yourself that
it just HAS to be longer...tough.
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mary rosenblum
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Make it shorter, tighter,
stronger.
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mary rosenblum
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That will impress an editor
much more than ten pages of excessive verbage..
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mary rosenblum
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that suggests he/she will be
spending a LOT of time trimming the flab from your pages! :-)
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speckledorf
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You make it sound so easy...just
1, 2, &3....sigh.
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mary rosenblum
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Welll...1, 2, 3 and polish.
:-)
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mary rosenblum
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actually, it IS easy, but
here's a trick for you...
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mary rosenblum
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I do a blurb/synopsis of every
single story or novel I start working on.
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mary rosenblum
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Right off the bat.
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mary rosenblum
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I give myself one to two
paragraphs for a short story and one to two pages for a novel...usually I
just need one.
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mary rosenblum
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Not only is it excellent
practice at writing that synopsis or blurb...
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mary rosenblum
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but it also forces you to
really focus on what the story really IS about.
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mary rosenblum
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I started doing this many
years ago, back when I first started selling.
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mary rosenblum
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It really helped pull stories
together so that I did less major revision.
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mary rosenblum
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And it gives you a clear
vision of your dramatic arc in a novel length work...
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mary rosenblum
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which makes it easier to keep
your subplots coordinated to the shape of the novel as a whole.
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mary rosenblum
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You don't want three subplots
climaxing AFTER your main climax!
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mary rosenblum
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It will help your writing in
general if you start to do this...
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mary rosenblum
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and then, when someone asks
you, 'What is it about?" you won't flounder. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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It is NOT easy to synopsize an
entire book in a very few pages.
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mary rosenblum
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Or a story in a paragraph or
two.
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mary rosenblum
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The more you do it, the better
you get at it. Just like writing the story in the first place. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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So don't wait until you NEED
that synopsis or blurb. Write them now. Lots of them. Write them for books
you've read.
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mary rosenblum
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And remember: Present tense.
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mary rosenblum
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No matter what tense you use
in your book.
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happybunny
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Is sort of the same thing/idea
as the "thirty second" pitch?
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mary rosenblum
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Yep, pretty much. You get more
space. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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I just checked to see how long
the proposal was, that I sent off to the editor at Viking for my YA. It was
one page, single spaced. It got her to ask for the novel.
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mary rosenblum
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I tend to write very short
synopses, but I've had a lot of practice doing it. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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The synopses for my mysteries
were more like 2 - 3 pages.
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mary rosenblum
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Well, this has been a fun
Oregon hour. ;-)
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mary rosenblum
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I'll post this in the usual
place:
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Writing Craft: Forum
Transcripts.
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mary rosenblum
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And I'll be posting an article
on writing the synopsis sometime in the next few days.
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writeaway
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Mary thanks again for making
what sounds difficult, something within my grasp.
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mary rosenblum
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It really isn't
difficult...it's just a new and different technique...
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mary rosenblum
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so if you're trying it for the
first time with your brand new novel...
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mary rosenblum
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it can seem very daunting.
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mary rosenblum
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That's why I suggest
practicing with something like Wizard of Oz. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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Do drop by the casual chat
tomorrow morning.
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mary rosenblum
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It's at 10 am Pacific, 11 Mt,
12 central, and 1 PM east coast time.
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mary rosenblum
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It's just an open chat where
we talk about whatever.
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mary rosenblum
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Great place to 'unstick' stuck
stories.
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mary rosenblum
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Good brainstorming sessions
there!
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mary rosenblum
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Have a good evening all!
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mary rosenblum
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See you on the website!
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mary rosenblum
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Good night, all!
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